Nahhh…I’m not getting into the belief/knowledge mudhole — Mww
This is more mythic than scientific lol. But what about this scene with Luke and Obi-Wan?
Luck? Chance? Unconscious? Animal instinct? Intuition? Or… ? :sparkle: — 0 thru 9
the importance of an "ontological commitment" validating that a belief is genuinely held. — Pantagruel
But then, in humans, everything rational is constitutive of consciousness, so in that respect, there is nothing particularly significant in merely holding some belief or another. — Mww
:up:Our senses take in a huge spectrum of information all the time. We only successfully process a small portion of that spectrum. Increasing our knowledge is one way to increase the portion of the spectrum we process. — Pantagruel
And of that immense amount we are able to ‘collect’, there must be more that is somehow beyond us. Stuff that perhaps animals can detect, or highly sensitive equipment. — 0 thru 9
It. conveys a difference between having well trained intuitions and not having well trained intuitions although it frames it in magical terms of using the force. — wonderer1
I suspect we are thinking of intuition differently. — Tom Storm
For me, in the work I do (moderately reliable) intuition means being able to grasp almost immediately if someone has a hidden weapon on them or not and if they might be violent or not. Or if they are experiencing delusional thinking or psychoses. Or knowing if someone can do a very challenging job or not within seconds of meeting them in a job interview. I can generally tell when someone is suicidal whether they will act on it or not, based on intuition. I've gotten to the point when I meet a new worker I can often tell within a minute or two how long they will last in the field and what path brought them here - a relative, lived experience, etc. — Tom Storm
I think there are probably key indicators we can read but you need to be 'open' to them in some way and have relevant experience. — Tom Storm
But building the foundation of justification on intuition, which as discussed by Darkneos,Philosophim and other users is derived from knowledge, seems question-begging. — Charlie Lin
Someone who understands the way development of reliable intuitions works, can then make relatively accurate judgements about the reliability of his own intuitions in relation to whatever the present situation happens to be. — wonderer1
Interesting. I see you and ↪T Clark as both talking about intuition as it has developed for each of you. Could you elaborate on what key differences might be? — wonderer1
Intuition does not provide justification, it identifies knowledge that needs to be justified, brings it to our attention. If it's something not important, not much justification is needed. As I've noted in previous posts, reason does not generate ideas, it tests them. — T Clark
consider it as a pinpoint to the knowledge you need. — Charlie Lin
Yes, it was the "or..." part that always bothered me. Intuition, or whatever you call it, is not something occult or supernatural. — T Clark
Field theory might be relevant here somehow. We are influenced by the waves all around us (water, sound, electromagnetic… )
— 0 thru 9
I don't think there's any need to postulate processes other than mental ones, e.g. the Force or fields, in order to understand intuition. — T Clark
Right, learning is required and the consequences of that learning are not fully predictable. However, I'm not talking in black and white terms, of intuitions either being perfectly accurate or totally unreliable. I'm just suggesting that intuitions can be improved to a significant degree. — wonderer1
Interesting. I see you and ↪T Clark as both talking about intuition as it has developed for each of you. Could you elaborate on what key differences might be? — wonderer1
Yes. Analog vs digital collection and processing of information becomes interesting in this respect. Analog collection of information captures an actual "imprint" of the real world. In which sense, there may actually be information captured which is unexpected or unknown. Neural networks are able to exploit such "hidden" information and extrapolate hidden connections. In fact, that is more or less exactly how they work. By contrast, digitization only encodes what it is specifically designed to encode. — Pantagruel
:up: Thanks for your reply. I take it that ‘analog = intuition’ and ‘digital = analytical’? — 0 thru 9
By acquiring knowledge — Darkneos
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