Nobody understands that what is real and what exists are not the same. — Wayfarer
↪Wayfarer Do you think that philosophy is, or should be, detached from the everyday activities of our lives? If so, I disagree, and wonder why you would think so? — Reformed Nihilist
I guess that what I'm saying is that philosophy directly informs my everyday approach to religion, spirituality, and theism — Reformed Nihilist
Religion, as it is commonly practiced, is at best (by my reckoning, informed by philosophy) a waste of time and a distraction, commonly is a means to romanticize irrationality, and at worst a means to subvert critical thinking in morally charged situations. — Reformed Nihilist
how would the ontological argument or the first mover argument obligate someone to go the their local church? — Reformed Nihilist
There is exactly zero reason to conclude that the first mover, God of the ontological argument, God of Pascal's wager, at al, are the commonly worshipped God from whatever neighborhood you live in or grew up in. In most cases, there's no line of reasoning that the God in question even has most of the properties we commonly associate with gods, like intentionally, moral goodness (being worthy of worship), or interest in our behaviours. — Reformed Nihilist
the ontological argument doesn't imply an intentional god that has interest in our behaviors — Reformed Nihilist
The first mover ... doesn't imply a worthy, intentional or caring god. — Reformed Nihilist
Pascal's wager doesn't imply a worthy, intentional or caring god. — Reformed Nihilist
I disagree since a being who is uninterested in the welfare of others wouldn't be morally perfect.... — lambda
I disagree since Pascal's wager is specifically an argument for Christianity and I would say the God described in the Sermon on the Mount is morally perfect, worthy of worship, intentional, and caring.
What a surprise! Nothing I contributed made the cut. — Sapientia
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