That would send the climate into a deep cold spell.
— frank
No sign of that actually occuring, though. It's a theoretical possibility, but the evidence doesn't support it. — Quixodian
I think you don't realise what a couple of degrees of global warming really means. — ChatteringMonkey
I agree that global warming will cause some problems. But it will also bring some benefits.
In my opinion it is almost impossible to stop global warming. The best that we can do is adapt. — Agree to Disagree
Sure. Nobody is crying wolf, though. The oceanic heat conveyor is slowing down now because of ice entering the north Atlantic. Does that prospect frighten you? — frank
It's happened before as a result of global warming, and the conveyor is slowing as we speak.
— frank
Let's hope.
— Quixodian
What? It would be beyond catastrophic if it happened again. — frank
I am more worried about population explosions, global famines, plagues, water wars, oil exhaustion, mineral shortages, falling sperm counts, thinning ozone, acidifying rain, nuclear winters, Y2K bugs, mad cow epidemics, killer bees, sex-change fish, and cell-phone-induced brain-cancer epidemics. — Agree to Disagree
For the last 40 years we have been told that the world will end in 10 years. — Agree to Disagree
scaremongering — Agree to Disagree
But which kills more, heat or cold? — Agree to Disagree
shellacking next year — Quixodian
Global climate change is not a future problem. Changes to Earth’s climate driven by increased human emissions of heat-trapping greenhouse gases are already having widespread effects on the environment: glaciers and ice sheets are shrinking, river and lake ice is breaking up earlier, plant and animal geographic ranges are shifting, and plants and trees are blooming sooner.
Effects that scientists had long predicted would result from global climate change are now occurring, such as sea ice loss, accelerated sea level rise, and longer, more intense heat waves.
"The magnitude and rate of climate change and associated risks depend strongly on near-term mitigation and adaptation actions, and projected adverse impacts and related losses and damages escalate with every increment of global warming."
- Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change
Some changes (such as droughts, wildfires, and extreme rainfall) are happening faster than scientists previously assessed. In fact, according to the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) — the United Nations body established to assess the science related to climate change — modern humans have never before seen the observed changes in our global climate, and some of these changes are irreversible over the next hundreds to thousands of years.
Scientists have high confidence that global temperatures will continue to rise for many decades, mainly due to greenhouse gases produced by human activities.
The IPCC’s Sixth Assessment report, published in 2021, found that human emissions of heat-trapping gases have already warmed the climate by nearly 2 degrees Fahrenheit (1.1 degrees Celsius) since pre-Industrial times (starting in 1750).1 The global average temperature is expected to reach or exceed 1.5 degrees C (about 3 degrees F) within the next few decades. These changes will affect all regions of Earth.
The severity of effects caused by climate change will depend on the path of future human activities. More greenhouse gas emissions will lead to more climate extremes and widespread damaging effects across our planet. However, those future effects depend on the total amount of carbon dioxide we emit. So, if we can reduce emissions, we may avoid some of the worst effects.
I agree that global warming will cause some problems. But it will also bring some benefits — Agree to Disagree
I think you don't realise what a couple of degrees of global warming really means.
— ChatteringMonkey
I agree that global warming will cause some problems. But it will also bring some benefits.
In my opinion it is almost impossible to stop global warming. The best that we can do is adapt. — Agree to Disagree
Cold weather kills 20 times as many people as hot weather, according to an international study analyzing over 74 million deaths in 384 locations across 13 countries. — ScienceDaily
And the climate denial just keeps on coming. — Mikie
Please state clearly which you think kills more, heat or cold? — Agree to Disagree
Since this thread has devolved into stupidity, let me try to bring it back to reality: — Mikie
Some changes (such as droughts, wildfires, and extreme rainfall) are happening faster than scientists previously assessed.
How do we know that they are not wrong about other things? — Agree to Disagree
I think you don't realise what a couple of degrees of global warming really means.
— ChatteringMonkey
I agree that global warming will cause some problems. But it will also bring some benefits. — Agree to Disagree
I agree that global warming will cause some problems. But it will also bring some benefits
— Agree to Disagree
This is not like some sort of balancing act though as if you win some and lose some. — Benkei
How do we know that they are not wrong about other things?
— Agree to Disagree
Yeah! I joined a forum, and there’s an anonymous poster who says they might be wrong. So they’re wrong! It’s obvious, really. — Quixodian
Hold on a minute. Aren't you an anonymous poster? — Agree to Disagree
Please state clearly which you think kills more, heat or cold?
— Agree to Disagree
Is it a numbers game? A scorecard? Tens of thousands have died in European heatwaves the last few years. — Quixodian
Cold weather kills 20 times as many people as hot weather — ScienceDaily
deaths due to moderately hot or cold weather substantially exceed those resulting from extreme heat waves or cold spells. — ScienceDaily
Heatwaves are not as deadly as has been assumed — TheGuardian
Deaths associated with non-optimal temperatures have been decreasing over time as it has gotten warmer partly due to a reduction in cold deaths. — TheBreakThrough
Even isolating deaths associated with heat, in most locations, deaths have been decreasing over time despite warming. — TheBreakThrough
Hold on a minute. Aren't you an anonymous poster?
— Agree to Disagree
No, I'm a moderator, and well known to all the staff and posters here. I notice that all of your comments, bar one, on this forum, have been on this topic, and that all of them are essentially calling climate change science into question. I will discuss this with the other moderators. — Quixodian
I see your point, but at the same time, I am of the view that the facts that you are calling into question are beyond dispute. As I've said, I've put it to the other moderators, I'll leave it at that for now. — Quixodian
Are the people who die from cold less important than the people who die from heat? — Agree to Disagree
For me there are no "facts" that are beyond dispute. — Agree to Disagree
Are you here pretending this hasn't been extensively dealt with in the IPCC? The limited local benefits are far outweighed by the negatives. It's not a balancing act at all. We overwhelmingly lose. — Benkei
You have a right to think whatever you want. — frank
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