So, why do some of us want to be nomads, and is it a better life (interpret better how you want)? — Ø implies everything
Settling down means accepting the good and bad of your environment; settling down means taking responsibility for your interaction with the environment. You settle down based on static premises, yet you yourself are not. Why not leave when you feel like it? Why not bask in the boundless potential of anywhere? Why not always search? Why not always discover? — Ø implies everything
. I have little interest in discovery or searching — Tom Storm
:up:We all want to be Peter Pan, if that means retaining from childhood the passion for enchantment and adventure. — Joshs
So, why do some of us want to be nomads, and is it a better life (interpret better how you want)? — Ø implies everything
in the real world, society sets limits to personal freedom and imposes obligations on its members. — Vera Mont
Most people grow out of that adolescent rebellion, either because there are things they desire and want to accomplish, or because circumstance forces them onto a path not of their own choosing — Vera Mont
Ideally, if you're of a nomadic disposition, you should train for a mobile occupation: join the Red Cross or Doctors Without Borders; be a surveyor, salesman or long-distance trucker. — Vera Mont
So, you've been living in Narnia or Oz maybe? I'm pretty sure the societies there also place limits on individual freedom and obligations on their members. Unless you're a witch?What is this ‘real world’ you speak of? I’ve never encountered it — Joshs
Yeah, like I said, most people. Not ascetic hermits, yogis on the verge of Nirvana or Ayn Rand.Only the person who orders their life in terms of many special and inflexible convictions about temporary matters makes themselves the victim of circumstances. — Joshs
Or any job involving remote work that can be done from a laptop anywhere in the world where there’s a cell or wifi signal. — Joshs
What is this ‘real world’ you speak of? I’ve never encountered it
— Joshs
So, you've been living in Narnia or Oz maybe? I'm pretty sure the societies there also place limits on individual freedom and obligations on their members. — Vera Mont
I think Spinoza and Kant are better examples, or anyone in any creative endeavor who manages to see things differently from the status quo. Kant apparently never travelled outside of his hometown, and yet defied the conventional thinking of his time and place. Are these people hermits? Well they certainly have to be comfortable with endless hours of solitary thought.Only the person who orders their life in terms of many special and inflexible convictions about temporary matters makes themselves the victim of circumstances.
— Joshs
Yeah, like I said, most people. Not ascetic hermits, yogis on the verge of Nirvana or Ayn Rand — Vera Mont
No one can place limits on the freedom of thought, especially when it comes to creative thought that is invisible to conventional society. — Joshs
I think Spinoza and Kant are better examples, or anyone in any creative endeavor who manages to see things differently from the status quo. — Joshs
Not quite the same as a nomadic life in the real - actual, physical, material; place where the body needs sustenance, protection from extreme temperatures and disease, sleep and waste-relief - world. — Vera Mont
No, they're not examples at all. They don't ditch school at 14 and go off whistling down the road. But private tutor is another occupation that will provide travel if you manage to latch on to a family that gets posted to various places around the world. The real world, mind - you can't go wandering, willy-nilly in somebody else's kid's imagination — Vera Mont
I guess they'll know when the police show up at their door. The justice system doesn't accept everyone's personal interpretation of the rules. Once you're locked up, that's a circumstance you can't easily ignore - but as you say, you can escape - to some degree - through fantasy. Interpretation doesn't much alter the need to abide by laws and earn a living.When I said there was no one real world, I meant that even within the status quo of societal rules and conventions, there are multiple realities at work, in the sense that individuals must interpret rules and conventions as they apply them, even when they believe that everyone in their community is following the ‘same’ legal and moral code. — Joshs
Yes, in theory, you could waste your life manoeuvring around the rules, but it wouldn't make you any more mobile and it wouldn't feed your (should you have fallen into the life-trap most people do) children.If one bureaucrat on the phone says no, hang up and try the next one. — Joshs
Yes. Imagination vs reality.I think the distinction here is between a notion of the real as bolted down , recalcitrant facts that one must abide by, and real constraints on one’s wandering that are responsive to one’s interpretive frame of reference — Joshs
Yes. It was that question to which I responded, not one about an alternate universe.The OP wants to outrun reality , seen as the bolted down facts of conventional society, by constantly changing locations. In other words, it would be a matter of continually swapping out one set of bolted down conventional redirections for another — Joshs
I think the distinction here is between a notion of the real as bolted down , recalcitrant facts that one must abide by, and real constraints on one’s wandering that are responsive to one’s interpretive frame of reference
— Joshs
Yes. Imagination vs reality — Vera Mont
a more contemporary way of thinking about the real (intra-action that creates material phenomena rather than interaction between pre-existing objects) that has made its way from philosophy into the social sciences. — Joshs
I hope that will satisfy an adolescent's wanderlust. — Vera Mont
I would think a nomadic lifestyle is similar to travelling/backpacking. While I enjoyed the experience, I eventually missed the comforts and security of home, and it felt like a relief to come back. — Down The Rabbit Hole
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