If we reduce the number of cows, all sorts of things would be better, but I agree that fossil fuels are what we need to focus on. — frank
Methane emitted by ruminants like cattle, sheep and goats is recycled into carbon in plants and soil, in a process known as the biogenic carbon cycle. It’s an important natural cycle that’s been happening since the beginning of life. — Agree to Disagree
beef cattle turn low-quality feed into lots of high-quality protein for human nutrition. — Agree to Disagree
A new study published Thursday in the journal PLOS Climate found the wealthiest 10% of Americans are responsible for almost half of planet-heating pollution in the US, and called on governments to shift away from “regressive” taxes on the carbon-intensity of what people buy and focus on taxing climate-polluting investments instead. — CNN
Cows (primarily, of all livestock) produce 14.5% of global greenhouse gas emissions, mostly in the form of methane. — Mikie
It is a cycle. There is no overall gain or loss of carbon atoms in the atmosphere due to cows. — Agree to Disagree
Rainforests sequester carbon. Logging releases that carbon back into the atmosphere. It’s a cycle. Thus, there is no overall gain or loss in the destruction of the rainforests.” — Mikie
How did the livestock issue end up on your radar? Are you a farmer? — frank
Is this serious? I’ll assume it is.
Yes, there is. There’s an increase in greenhouse gases. — Mikie
thought that 1 billion cows must be causing a huge problem. But then I researched further and found that CO2 and methane from cows are part of the biogenic carbon cycle. There is no overall gain or loss of carbon atoms in the atmosphere due to cows (in the long-run).
Most people are spending a lot of time and resources trying to reduce emissions of GHG's from cows. It is — Agree to Disagree
It is fossil fuels that are the problem. NOT cows. — Agree to Disagree
Point out the fault in this logic:
- Atoms of carbon in the atmosphere are taken up by plants.
- Cows eat the plants.
- The cows release the atoms of carbon back into the atmosphere. — Agree to Disagree
Mr. Huntsman first began to entertain doubts about climate orthodoxy in the years after he saw Al Gore’s 2006 documentary, “An Inconvenient Truth.” “His story was so well laid out, so precise,” Mr. Huntsman says. “At certain times, certain events would happen, certain measurements would be reached.” They didn’t and weren’t. [Actually, they have.]
It wasn’t a sudden “Aha” moment, he says, but he began to think about other dire predictions that had people panicked not long ago. “In the ’70s [here it comes…] we were going into an ice age. Then we went to acid rain—in six or seven years that was going to destroy all the oak trees and pine trees, and New England would be this deforested area. Then the ozone was going to disappear. And then we got to global warming, and we were all going to fry to death.”
Fossils don't burn, Sparky. They're made out of rock. — frank
Atoms of carbon in the atmosphere are taken up by plants.
Cows eat the plants.
The cows release the atoms of carbon back into the atmosphere. — Agree to Disagree
They don't burn, Sparky, because they ain't got no carbon left in them. Fossilised carbon deposits is coal and oil and tar, and they burns pretty good. — unenlightened
Fossil fuels are fossilised plants (and some animal remnants). — Benkei
Also wrong. Natural tar is crude oil coming to the surface of which the lighter part evaporates leaving tar or asphalt. — Benkei
thought that 1 billion cows must be causing a huge problem. But then I researched further and found that CO2 and methane from cows are part of the biogenic carbon cycle. There is no overall gain or loss of carbon atoms in the atmosphere due to cows (in the long-run) — Agree to Disagree
Once upon a time, all tar came from pine trees. — frank
Tree-sourced resin (or rosin) is used for skateboards to prevent cracking, chipping, and breakage. Turpentine from certain pine trees has been used medicinally for treatment of cough, gonorrhea, and rheumatism. Tar water, resin steeped in water, used to be recommended by doctors for illnesses such as smallpox, ulcers and syphilis.
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