I think China has proven it does work. A couple years ago they had the 100th anniversary of the founding of the Chinese Communist Party, for example. But it has also proven that communism, like all grand collectivist ideologies, is tantamount to state capitalism. — NOS4A2
What makes anyone think that there is a system that works? What even is the measure or criterion of 'working'? What constitutes failure? Are you and yours the measure of success? — unenlightened
The fact that democracy hasn't yet worked doesn't mean that it couldn't..... — Pantagruel
The Christian ideal has not been tried and found wanting. It has been found difficult; and left untried.
What makes anyone think that there is a system that works? What even is the measure or criterion of 'working'? What constitutes failure? Are you and yours the measure of success? — unenlightened
Not so much, if you consider the amount of outside interference to make sure they failed.Economic crises in countries such as Cuba and Venezuela hint to communism's failure, — Down The Rabbit Hole
Sure, because capitalists don't care if you are starving, — BC
Reminds me of that G.K. Chesterton quote: — Tom Storm
Yet, I do not know if we should consider them as Marxists, because their main role and leader is Maoism. We can conclude that while Western or Eastern European Communism has failed dramatically, Chinese Maoism remains. — javi2541997
Not so much, if you consider the amount of outside interference to make sure they failed. — Vera Mont
I don't count the USSR or PRC as communist or socialist, despite their names. Cuba gave it a go but did so in a particularly disadvantageous environment (enforced by the US). Venezuela? — BC
The Scandinavian countries have elements of capitalism and socialism in a democratic political system. That might be as close as we get to socialism. — BC
CCP is quite alive and kicking.Does this speak to communism being fiscally workable, or does their failures speak to it being fiscally unworkable? — Down The Rabbit Hole
As such, were (are) they successful? The USSR is kaput, but China is successful. The USSR was able to marshal its resources to turn back and defeat the Nazi invaders, no small accomplishment. — BC
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