So I agree with some of the sentiments that have already been shared in this thread, namely that advocating a two state solution is so unrealistic that it is basically a way politicians pretend to advocate for peace, while in fact supporting the status quo. — Tzeentch
This is a typical argument whereby Palestine is being penalized for what they hypothetically could do, (regardless of any actual objective) while the Israeli government is excused for what they actually do. — Maw
Future risks are not a good argument not to do anything now. — Benkei
CAIRO, Oct 11 (Reuters) - Three Palestinians were killed by gunfire from Israeli forces and settlers in Qusra village near the West Bank city of Nablus on Wednesday, the Palestinian official news agency said.
Eleven other Palestinians were wounded by live rounds, according to the Red Crescent.
Earlier in the day, Ghassan Daghlas, the acting governor of Nablus, told Reuters that Israeli settlers had attacked the village located south of Nablus, and fired live bullets at citizens and ambulances in the place.
You understand how hollow that sounds. Perhaps Hamas destroys the Israeli nuclear and chemical weapons deterrence totally and defeats militarily the IDF, then they could start negotiations about all of the borders, not just what about West Bank and Gaza based on the UN decisions done on the subject or the Oslo Accords.Recognising the state of Israel to them means recognising sovereignty over land that they believe ought to be subject of negotiations in its entirety. — Benkei
I think the kill-all-Isrealites-including-the-babies Hamas fighters have done their share to raise support for Likud. Both get strength from each other.In my view Likud is the singlemost largest obstacle to peace. — Benkei
(The Times of Israel) Mounting questions over Israel’s massive intelligence failure to anticipate and prepare for a surprise Hamas assault were compounded Monday when an Egyptian intelligence official said that Jerusalem had ignored repeated warnings that the Gaza-based terror group was planning “something big” — which included an apparent direct notice from Cairo’s intelligence minister to the prime minister.
The Egyptian official said Egypt, which often serves as a mediator between Israel and Hamas, had spoken repeatedly with the Israelis about “something big,” without elaborating.
He said Israeli officials were focused on the West Bank and played down the threat from Gaza. Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu’s government is made up of supporters of West Bank settlers who have demanded a security crackdown there in the face of a rising tide of violence over the last 18 months.
You understand how hollow that sounds. Perhaps Hamas destroys the Israeli nuclear and chemical weapons deterrence totally and defeats militarily the IDF, then they could start negotiations about all of the borders, not just what about West Bank and Gaza based on the UN decisions done on the subject or the Oslo Accords. — ssu
I think the kill-all-Isrealites-including-the-babies Hamas fighters have done their share to raise support for Likud. Both get strength from each other. — ssu
How is it logical consistent?It's not hollow but logically consistent. What rings hollow is your "might makes right" argument as a reason to ignore their position. — Benkei
That Hamas has killed children and decapitated women? The terror attacks were made to a) spread fear, b) seek revenge and give that feeling of revenge for Palestinians and c) make the IDF to launch a large full-scale attack on Gaza.Given what I just quoted as their official position since 2017 this is simply a gross mischaracterization. — Benkei
Or hoped it would happen... not perhaps with so many Israelis being killed, but still. A terror attack is what you need for this kind of operation that they are now starting, which is likely to be the total occupation of Gaza, going through all the parts of it. Too bad if your a military aged man in Gaza then.What is the likelihood Bibi ignored it on purpose considering all the flack he's gotten in the past year? — Benkei
:100:I think we'll see the worst slaughter of Palestinians in our lifetime the coming weeks. — Benkei
the cruelty must be the point — 180 Proof
There was a woman with an infant in her arms who was killed as she almost touched the flag of truce, and the women and children of course were strewn all along the circular village until they were dispatched. Right near the flag of truce a mother was shot down with her infant; the child not knowing that its mother was dead was still nursing, and that especially was a very sad sight. The women as they were fleeing with their babes were killed together, shot right through, and the women who were very heavy with child were also killed. All the Indians fled in these three directions, and after most all of them had been killed a cry was made that all those who were not killed wounded should come forth and they would be safe. Little boys who were not wounded came out of their places of refuge, and as soon as they came in sight a number of soldiers surrounded them and butchered them there. — Lakota Accounts of the Massacre at Wounded Knee
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