It means exactly the same as Likud states should be entirely Jewish with the largest difference that even Hamas is in favour of a two state solution. — Benkei
How about you go fuck yourself you with your irrelevant ad hominems? — Benkei
As to Israel supporting a two state solution on paper... the last 5 decades make this irrelevant. — BitconnectCarlos
The complexities of politics and actually reaching peace requires people to talk to each other via other means than through the barrel of a gun or cannon. — Benkei
I understand you get off by dehumanising people simply because they do things you abhor so you can feel all safe and cuddly by blowing up civilians because "necessary and proportionate" to "eradicate" Hamas (as if they're rats). The complexities of politics and actually reaching peace requires people to talk to each other via other means than through the barrel of a gun or cannon. No matter how much they hate each other. You misunderstand my insistence on the requirement to talk to the leadership in Gaza as advocating for terrorism. — Benkei
Or you beat the enemy so badly (e.g., Germany and Japan and the American South), they're so sick of war that they're ready for peace. — RogueAI
"Among the most disturbing political phenomena of our times is the emergence in the newly created state of Israel of the "Freedom Party" (Tnuat Haherut), a political party closely akin in its organization, methods, political philosophy and social appeal to the Nazi and Fascist parties. It was formed out of the membership and following of the former Irgun Zvai Leumi, a terrorist, right-wing, chauvinist organization in Palestine."
"Within the Jewish community they have preached an admixture of ultranationalism, religious mysticism, and racial superiority. Like other Fascist parties they have been used to break strikes, and have themselves pressed for the destruction of free trade unions. In their stead they have proposed corporate unions on the Italian Fascist model." — 1948 letter NYT
[Herut] had already been in coalition with the Liberals since 1965 as Gahal, with Herut as the senior partner. Herut remained the senior partner in the new grouping, which was given the name Likud, meaning "Consolidation", as it represented the consolidation of the Israeli right. It worked as a coalition under Herut's leadership until 1988, when the member parties merged into a single party under the Likud name. — wiki
You implied and explicitly said on many posts that Hamas has a legitimate form of how it conducts itself. You tried saying how it's charter is cuddly-wuddly for a two-state solution, — schopenhauer1
I want the Palestinians to win their freedom and think violence is justified to that end but not how Hamas goes about it. — moi
Again. You're not replying to the facts. You just don't like it that it's incontrovertibly true that Hamas has indicated a willingness to discuss a two-state solution along the 1967 borders. — Benkei
If only Japan had taken the same position as you would when they had a nuclear bomb dropped on them! "We don't negotiate with war criminals and terrorists and because the US army dropped it, we will not speak with the US government!" — Benkei
C. The right to exercise national self-determination in the State of Israel is unique to the Jewish people. — Benkei
While the existence of such states or a theoretical Jewish state is not inherently problematic, when that is pursued through violent means over the backs of another nation we call that ultranationalism and it is indeed deeply problematic. — Tzeentch
all is fair in love and war — @user-bx6we4od7d
While the existence of such states or a theoretical Jewish ethno-religious state is not inherently problematic, when that is pursued through violent means over the backs of another nation that is called ultranationalism and it is indeed deeply problematic. — Tzeentch
For Israel to exist as a state it must use violence. — BitconnectCarlos
Wars where a people/nation are faced with annihilation tend to foster such elements. — BitconnectCarlos
Some of those Palestinians in Israel have lived there their whole life, and some are vetted and given permits to work in Israel from the West Bank. It's fairly obvious why those two groups would be less of a risk than just immediately opening up the borders with Gaza. — flannel jesus
This is not how modern states function, so evidently something must have gone terribly wrong down the line. What do you suppose that is? — Tzeentch
Do you agree that the same could apply to Palestine? — Tzeentch
The Middle East region is quieter today than it has been in two decades. — Sullivan
[...] the amount of time that I have to spend on crisis and conflict in the Middle East today compared to any of my predecessors going back to 9/11 is significantly reduced. — Sullivan
If you look at the relationship among countries in the Middle East, you saw – with a lot of work by the United States – countries coming together, the region integrating, hostilities diminishing. — Blinken
What happened over the last 24 hours doesn’t go to state-to-state conflict, where Jake is exactly right – it’s diminished. This goes to a terrorist attack by a terrorist organization. — Blinken
A vague reference couched in absolutist terms of Jordan to Mediterranean all of a sudden means Hamas is for two states? — schopenhauer1
I think literally all of Hamas would try to do exactly what Hamas's stated goal is. Not all Palestinians want Hamas's stated goal, but *enough* of them do. — flannel jesus
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