This is also the reason why stupidity is not the opposite of intelligence, because there are very intelligent people who are also very stupid — Matias
And at long last I've finally realized that it's stupid to tell stupid people that they are stupid. — 180 Proof
How would you define it? — Matias
So stupidity would be not desiring to correct one's own deficits. — Pantagruel
Stupidity is extreme bias — Christoffer
That looks like stupidity to me. A pervasive refusal to try to learn. — fdrake
The best definition I have heard is someone doing the exact same thing in identical circumstances and expecting a different outcome.
This is why human stupidity has its benefits. Sometimes something different does happen. — I like sushi
I like Kant's definition best, which he says is a "lack of judgment" (= Mangel an Urteilskraft), whereby for him judgment is the ability to subsume sensory impressions under the concepts of reason. (Kant: "intellectual concepts as such are empty, mere perceptions are blind) . This ability of judgment is therefore the "hinge" between the world outside and the world of ideas and concepts. If this hinge is defective, as in the case of stupidity, then the ideas and concepts work idly, in a void, so to speak, without any connection to reality. — Matias
What if someone is able to learn, calculative, intelligent, wilful, determined, of sound mind and they still do not learn and grow? Still don't try to excise their errors and expand their strengths across many domains they are in fact able to?
That looks like stupidity to me. A pervasive refusal to try to learn — fdrake
The question is, when others fall short of our expectations of them in this way, is the failure in their intent or in our failure to separate their perspective from our own norms? — Joshs
Yes. This also seemingly exculpates the one who calls another person stupid of their own bad faith, and places the whole responsibility for the quality of the interaction on the other person, the "stupid one".Stupidity is typically a blameful judgement of moral culpability we level against others (or ourselves) which supposes bad intent. — Joshs
"Husband beats wife so that she ends up in the hospital with multiple fractures. Because she pervasively refused to learn what he sought to teach her."A pervasive refusal to try to learn. — fdrake
How can you know that they are in fact able to do so??What if someone is able to learn, calculative, intelligent, wilful, determined, of sound mind and they still do not learn and grow? Still don't try to excise their errors and expand their strengths across many domains they are in fact able to? — fdrake
The question is, when others fall short of our expectations of them in this way, is the failure in their intent or in our failure to separate their perspective from our own norms?
— Joshs
Allowing for another's perspective (and first of all, learning what it actually is), surely feels like lack of confidence on one's own part (for many people, at least). — baker
Do you think this "incapacity" is (1) either... an incapacity for sound judgment. — Tom Storm
Those ancients are still very relevant and, essentially, modern, don't you think? — 180 Proof
CBT, which I assume you're familiar with, is in large part derived from both Socratic methods and Hellenistic philosophies such as Stoicism & Epicureanism — 180 Proof
This brain rot is virulent in Britain, Germany, Hungary, Turkey & Poland too. :eyes:Is this because they are dumb, or has the American system (education / media / corporate influence) failed people, making them rubes and willing victims of a demagogue? — Tom Storm
No, we can't. We have to out-vote them (and continue to out-breed them). :mask:We can't use CBT for political stupidity can we?
A pervasive refusal to try to learn. — fdrake
:smirk:Stupidity: n, thinking philosophy can be found in a dictionary. :wink: — unenlightened
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