My definition of realist in this thread was the folks who believe in the objects which they can see only as real existence, — Corvus
It is? Your title implies it's about everyone who believes the world exists. I suspect I'm not the only one who thinks so. — flannel jesus
We innately know (non-verbally) there exists an external world, and proceed to learn how to interact with it. — Relativist
It's not an a priori truth in the traditional sense, because its falsehood is logically possible. I'm simply saying ~solipsism is a rational belief.Do you suggest that the external world is an inborn (a priori) concept? — Corvus
Ok fair enough. Quite disappointed on your "vulgar" nature of response in hysterical tone. Enjoy your own recommended readings yourself. — Corvus
But we can learn from confusions too - how human minds work for different people, and we can notice the backgrounds of their ill intentions and negative motive for the aggressive responses, — Corvus
Ok. I see. Good argument on your original post, I think. :up:It's not an a priori truth in the traditional sense, because its falsehood is logically possible. I'm simply saying ~solipsism is a rational belief. — Relativist
.For now, you will have to endure the confusion. — flannel jesus
It turns out that Heinlein's "fair witness" is the only actually correct way of doing this. While one is perceiving the existence of the world one has complete proof that the world exists at least in the sense of a set of (what at least appears to be) sensory perceptions.
This remains true even if the world never physically existed. When one no longer is perceiving objects, then it would be the case that these objects have utterly ceased to exist in every sense (besides memories of them) when these objects are mere projections from one's own mind. — PL Olcott
The only path to the actual truth is to continue to hypothesize possibilities until they are conclusively proven to be definitely false. Both belief and disbelief tend to short-circuit this. — PL Olcott
How did you manage to perceive the unperceived cup first place, which caused your belief and memory on the unperceived cup? — Corvus
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