I never believed that squirrels can live in houses. I have seen a few of them in the garden sometimes. They are very fast, and agile. They quickly do their business and disappear into the woods.but to answer your question: squirrel live roughly 10-30% (2-6 years) of their natural life span in the wild. With the hawk, foxes, and cars around here not good odds for a house squirrel. — Vaskane
How do you prove the world that you perceive is real?Could one perhaps say that the world as they experience it is real to them?
— RussellA
We do actually say that for everyone. — I like sushi
OK, let's see it this way. Are sure all your sense organs are perfectly accurate?How do you want me too?
What kind of argument do you want me to present?
Note: I find no need to ‘prove’ it to myself. — I like sushi
1. Real can mean physical existence. You are not just seeing something, but you can also touch grab feel use manipulate transfer and throw out physically.Tell me what you mean by ‘real’. — I like sushi
What do you know about the flying elephant in your mind?if I see a flying elephant that is not actually there (everyone else denies it is there) then the elephant does not exist but is real for me - unless I am being gaslighted. — I like sushi
Probing helps us understand how our mind works, why we have beliefs on certain things and not, and the nature of doubting etc.I feel like this is why you are probing? We know things because we can doubt them. — I like sushi
What do you know about the flying elephant in your mind? — Corvus
1. Real can mean physical existence. You are not just seeing something, but you can also touch grab feel use manipulate transfer and throw out physically.
2. Real can also mean genuine, not bogus, not look alike, not copy of the genuine.
3. Real means actual, not dream, not hallucinating, not illusion. — Corvus
Again, cut to the chase please. — I like sushi
Only thing I have done was responding to your request.Tell me what you mean by ‘real’. — I like sushi
Again, cut to the chase please. — I like sushi
if I see a flying elephant that is not actually there (everyone else denies it is there) then the elephant does not exist but is real for me - unless I am being gaslighted.
— I like sushi
What do you know about the flying elephant in your mind? — Corvus
If you are able to recall, you claimed that you do actually say that the world you experience is real. in your post in this thread.Do you have a point or are you just going to throw out facile questions? — I like sushi
It is beyond belief that you seem to be in total oblivion that my question was against your claim. The question would have never been put to you, if you hadn't made your claim. Philosophy is all about claiming, asking and probing on the metaphysical issues . If you renounce that, then I don't see your point of doing philosophy.Frankly I find it to be a ridiculous question BUT given that you asked it I imagine if you answer it it may shed light on where you are going with this. — I like sushi
I already answered. It is ‘real’ to me. We experience what we experience. There is no ‘knowing’ for me in any absolute sense.
Now, how do you know what you perceive is ‘real’? If you answer your own question it might help, unless you find it meaningless? — I like sushi
what do you know about your flying elephant? — Corvus
What about you? If you see an elephant flying in the sky how do you know about it? — I like sushi
Your saying that you see a flying elephant and it is real to you, is a self-contradiction.
Because the flying elephant was an unreal object to you and to the world. You were seeing an unreal flying elephant. — Corvus
That is not the only thing Kant was writing about. He wrote about wide variety of topics.How this maps onto what is existent is another matter and kind of what Kant went into in a deep way in terms of investigating what can be known prior to experience. — I like sushi
What I believe is real for me is real for me and may or may not relate to what you believe is real for you. — I like sushi
That is not the only thing Kant was writing about. He wrote about wide variety of topics. — Corvus
After all you brought in the term 'Real' in your claim. — Corvus
It would have no use, in this case. It is self-evidence that we do not share experiences. It is their comparison resulting in consistency or deviation that matters, and helps us delineate what we can rely on from what we cannot. I suppose, for an idealist this doesn't matter though so I could be barking up the wrong tree. — AmadeusD
What about a rainbow? We all see them yet they are not there. The illusion is an objective one though, so whilst we can say it is not real in one sense (being an illusion) we share a common experience of it. — I like sushi
it can just be used to defend any erroneous claim by declaring yourself deluded. — AmadeusD
What are you talking about? If you are deluded you are deluded. You do not choose to be deluded. If you are pretending to be deluded you are lying — I like sushi
This is a little like saying Canada does not exist because I have never been there. Merely heresay. — I like sushi
I never said anything about anything being ‘true’. — I like sushi
Honestly, there is nothing here to talk about bye — I like sushi
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