A world with no existence is metaphysically impossible because metaphysics deals with existence.However, what would something metaphysically impossible but logically possible be? — Lionino
Basically, there is nothing controversial about this, things that are logically possible are not always physically possible. For example: "I am flying faster than light". The laws of physics state that is impossible, however, it is not logically impossible, as there is nothing logically necessary about the speed of light.
However, what would something metaphysically impossible but logically possible be? — Lionino
A world with no existence is metaphysically impossible because metaphysics deals with existence. — Corvus
A world with no existence is metaphysically impossible because metaphysics deals with existence.
A world with no existence is logically possible because logically there are possible worlds where nothing exists. — Corvus
But because of the concept "a world" implying the ontological entity, "a world of nothingness" would be contradiction in metaphysics. — Corvus
Yeah that is the exact part where the contradiction arises, which voids the metaphysical ground of "a world with nothingness". — Corvus
A world with no existence is logically possible because logically there are possible worlds where nothing exists. — Corvus
Without the basic semantic rigour, all science and philosophy would lose their footings for debates, even metaphysics.In honesty, I happen to uphold that nothingness is a logical impossibility due to unavoidable contradictions and reifications. But this is contrary to this affirmation: — javra
If someone comes along with a concept called "a fullness of emptiness", and insist it has meanings, then we stop and wonder what it is about before even opening the metaphysics or logic books.So to further in my playing the devil's advocate here, were a world of no existence to be logically possible, then why would nothingness (i.e., a world of no existence) not be metaphysically possible? (As in the possibility of there being nothing rather than something.) — javra
Because Metaphysics is all about existence. If there were no existence, Metaphysics wouldn't exist, and wouldn't have existed at all. That would be impossible for Metaphysics for its own existence.then why would nothingness (i.e., a world of no existence) not be metaphysically possible? (As in the possibility of there being nothing rather than something.) — javra
In Modal Logic it is possible to have a possible world that nothing exists. Obviously you must be a modal realist to accept the points. If you are an anti-modalist, then that is fair enough.Laws of thought which facilitate all logic exist as well. Do you then agree that the concept of "a possible world of nothingness" is not logically possible ... this in addition to not being metaphysically possible as well? — javra
In Modal Logic it is possible to have a world that nothing exists. — Corvus
It's logically possible that the person who is posting as wonderer1 right now is not the same person as posted previously as wonderer1. However it isn't metaphysically possible.
— wonderer1
How so? — Lionino
if I were to draw up a diagram, metaphysics would be the circle encompassing the physical and the logical. — Joshs
Let X = "The person who made that post as wonderer1 is the same person as the person who posted previously as wonderer1." — wonderer1
Let X = "The person who made that post as wonderer1 is the same person as the person who posted previously as wonderer1."
— wonderer1
If you take the conclusion to be a premise, I can prove that God is in my backpack making waffles too. — Lionino
Modal Logic is a branch of Logic, not Metaphysics. But logically speaking, if there was nothing existing at all, then Metaphysics wouldn't exist either. Logically it is possible, but from Metaphysical point of view, it is impossible.So to claim that a possibility emerging from modal logic is not, by its very origin, a metaphysical possibility is to me odd. But so be it, on my part at least. But so be it, on my part at least. — javra
:cool: :pray:Thanks for the video posting, you. Cute. — javra
But logically speaking, if there was nothing existing at all, then Metaphysics wouldn't exist either. Logically it is possible, but from Metaphysical point of view, it is impossible. — Corvus
Your point sound confused in the methodology. Hypothesises are the methods for the scientific enquiries. Metaphysics and Logic do not adopt hypothesis as their methodology.It is possible to make the hypothetical claim that nothing exists. But you are doing this from the standpoint of existence. i.e. your hypothetical-logical claim of non-existence exists. You cannot hypothesize away existence just by averring the hegemony of logic. The claim is existentially-bound. — Pantagruel
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