There is even some indication that the Houthis are avoiding targeting anything that isn't related to the US or Israel, which means the EU may have more to lose by getting involved
In other words, the Houthi have friends in high places, and anyone who gets involved on the US or Israel's behalf can expect retaliation that targets their weak points.
Iran / wider Muslim world
The proportionality depends on the risk to your soldiers/civilians versus the risk to enemy non-combatants, which means Israel's decisive advantage of the ground factors into proportionality. — Count Timothy von Icarus
It's not happening. France is doing it's own thing, EU isn't at all contacted, other countries (like India) are not taken into account. And this just shows how for example "the Quad" isn't anything serious, as obviously for it's members safe navigation on the global sea routes is quite important!However, even though on the surface the participation of NATO / EU / Trading nations seems sort of obvious, I'm not sure if it actually is. — Tzeentch
Qatar is one of biggest helpers of Hamas... that's why the relationship. So you prefer that other countries assist Hamas too???I doubt Israel would survive for long the Samson option.
Qatar has done good work, but I doubt it will change anything. — Punshhh
Let's go back to: I'm sorry for you if you think this needs quantifying.
The Martens clause leads interpretation.
Until a more complete code of the laws of war is issued, the High Contracting Parties think it right to declare that in cases not included in the Regulations adopted by them, populations and belligerents remain under the protection and empire of the principles of international law, as they result from the usages established between civilized nations, from the laws of humanity and the requirements of the public conscience.
The Geneva Conventions exclude breaking its rules even if the other party does (unless specifically stated otherwise) right there in article 1 and 3 of the convention. So Israel has a right to (counter)attack but not a right to breach the conventions. The disproportionality is apparent in the means chosen, collective punishment and deliberate targetting of civilians, which are all prohibited under the various conventions. Put in other words, excessive violence when acting in alleged self-defence, even if we accept a case of self-defence, is still illegal under international law and therefore disproportional.
More on reciprocity in humanitarian law: https://international-review.icrc.org/sites/default/files/S0020860400022178a.pdf — Benkei
However, the real problem here is that you need laws to tell you what is ethically abundantly clear to anyone with a conscience (that's how it ended up as law, because people with a conscience realised it had to be written down). — Benkei
So this is my last reply to you as I don't want to engage with murderous idiots here or in real life. — Benkei
Qatar is one of biggest helpers of Hamas... that's why the relationship. So you prefer that other countries assist Hamas too???
Besides it isn’t that easy to prove the intentionality of such violations like “collective punishment and deliberate targetting of civilians” and pin it down on specific political leaders, or is it? — neomac
That's extremely tiny light, yet I think the coverage simply can move attitudes and bring change in the long run.It's no guarantee that SA will win of course, but, it's some tiny bit of light. — Manuel
Government spokesman Steffen Hebestreit said in a statement that Israel was "defending itself" after the "inhuman" attacks by Hamas of October 7.
"In light of German history and the crimes against humanity of the Shoah, the German government is particularly committed to the (UN) Genocide Convention," signed in 1948 in the wake of the Holocaust, Hebestreit said.
He said the Convention marked a "central instrument" under international law to prevent another Holocaust.
For this reason, he said, "we stand firmly against a political instrumentalisation" of the Convention.
Hebestreit acknowledged diverging views in the international community on Israel's military operation in Gaza.
"However the German government decisively and expressly rejects the accusation of genocide brought against Israel before the International Court of Justice," he said.
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