More circumstantial evidence of the Netanyahu regime's complicity via strategic neglect...I would not have supported the jihadist Hamas party over PA-affiliated, secular parties in Gaza and not have promoted the violent settler land-grabs in the West Bank, etc in order for both policies to sabotage all prospects of a "Two-State Solution" as Bibi's governments have done since 2004; thus, no October 7th atrocities and retaliatory mass murdering by the IDF today. — 180 Proof
Hamas are like the Allies who occasionally commit a war crime but that's all good and excusable because they're fighting for the liberation of the Palestinian people and therefore are the good guys.
I mean, that's one thing which would come under that banner, imo.
Unsure what you're intimating though, so will refrain from comment beyond that. — AmadeusD
I can't see a world where Hamas achieves total victory and Jews are allowed to remain in Israel. — Count Timothy von Icarus
Indeed.It's also interesting how when I ask Asians, Africans or South Americans about this conflict it all of a sudden really isn't that complicated. At least to them. It really is a "Western" problem that this conflict is not getting closer to getting resolved. — Benkei
Namibia has criticised Germany’s “shocking decision” to support Israel in the genocide case at the International Court of Justice (ICJ) brought by South Africa, as Israel’s war on Gaza entered its 100th day.
“Germany has chosen to defend in the ICJ the genocidal and gruesome acts of the Israeli government against innocent civilians in Gaza and the occupied Palestinian Territories,” the president of Namibia, Hage Geingob, said in a statement on X on Saturday.
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The statement by the Namibian presidency added that Berlin was ignoring Israel’s killing of more than 23,000 Palestinians in Gaza and various United Nations reports disturbingly highlighting the internal displacement of 85 percent of the besieged enclave’s 2.3 million people amid acute shortages of food and essential services.
The Namibian president expressed “deep concern” over “the shocking decision” communicated by the government of Germany on Friday, in which “it rejected the morally upright indictment” brought forward by South Africa.
“No peace-loving human being can ignore the carnage waged against Palestinians in Gaza,” it said.
I also don't see an Israel that doesn't fully destroy Arab history and culture in greater Palestine — Benkei
No peace-loving human being can ignore the carnage waged against...
the governing structure that is intent on the destruction of its neighbor — BitconnectCarlos
What must be done to those who vow to murder innocent civilians? They must be killed. — BitconnectCarlos
Damn dude you are dumb as a brick it seems. — Vaskane
That's precisely why 51-7 is a war crime. — Vaskane
Moving civilians into contested land, to block military operations is human shielding as stated by two Corpus of Laws, including the Geneva Convention. — Vaskane
Again, you're not even using the law, you're just quoting articles about the law. — Vaskane
Means blocking military operations by moving civilians into an area is considered human shielding, and this is what Israel does. — Vaskane
Tell us, what do you suppose the following means:
"MOVING CIVILIANS INTO AN AREA TO IMPEDE OPERATIONS." — Vaskane
one is a world where the Axis won, and one is a world where the Allies won. Which world would you prefer to be in? — RogueAI
You could also say it's analogous to the last days of the Third Reich in that the war is already decisively lost,
As I see it, Israel has already lost and Netanyahu, who represents the Jewish people, in this, has blood on his hands. — Punshhh
Not trying to stir anything up, but surely this kind of thinking also exculpates all Palestinians who would not be represented by Hamas? — AmadeusD
I'm not pretending you don't see the distinction, but in the Israel case, Netanyahu is the actual head-of-state, not an interloper, which Hamas can be seen as. — AmadeusD
Surely, the proportionality question, comes, in some sense, down to who is actually liable to attack?
This is an armed conflict. Both sides attack. Hamas has launched thousands of rockets into Israel since 10/7. — BitconnectCarlos
Netanyahu is the head of state, Hamas is the governing organization of Gaza. Ismail Haniyeh is the leader. — BitconnectCarlos
There are innocent Palestinians and there are guilty Palestinians. Some legitimate targets of war, others not. Israel does not indiscriminately target all Palestinians — BitconnectCarlos
You've glossed over what i've said. Hamas is an interloper, not an actual Government and Ismail is not an actual head-of-state. I did point this out... — AmadeusD
I find this wanting of fact. I do not see any clear-cut policy whereby this is actually happening. Particularly given the Israeli propensity to literally refer to Palestinians as animals and worthy of eradication.. — AmadeusD
This doesn't have anything to do with which individuals are liable to be attacked. But i understand the emotional behind that fact. It just isn't what i've asked about. — AmadeusD
I very much consider Hamas as the actual government of Gaza — BitconnectCarlos
a governmen — BitconnectCarlos
Yes Israel will target houses and hospitals because Hamas will militarize houses and hospitals, but Israel will provide aid to innocent Palestinians. — BitconnectCarlos
but targeting houses which contain weapons and hamas operatives is not a war crime. — BitconnectCarlos
Netanyahu does not represent the Jewish people. He is the prime minister of a state, not a religious authority.
Israel does not indiscriminately target all Palestinians; — BitconnectCarlos
Indeed, they don't bomb the West Bank as much as Gaza.Israel does not indiscriminately target all Palestinians; Hamas will consider all Israelis legitimate targets for violence/death/kidnapping/rape. — BitconnectCarlos
(AP) Jan 11th 2024, The Israeli military campaign in Gaza, experts say, now sits among the deadliest and most destructive in recent history.
In just over two months, researchers say the offensive has wreaked more destruction than the razing of Syria’s Aleppo between 2012 and 2016, Ukraine’s Mariupol or, proportionally, the Allied bombing of Germany in World War II. It has killed more civilians than the U.S.-led coalition did in its three-year campaign against the Islamic State group.
“We are fighting human animals and we act accordingly,” Gallant said.
While it appears that Gallant was specifically referring to Hamas fighters in that comment, the rest of the minister’s remarks called for further oppression of all people in Gaza by denying them basic human needs.
“We are imposing a complete siege on Gaza,” Gallant said. “There will be no electricity, no food, no water, no fuel. Everything will be closed.”
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