We’ve got a crooked country,” run by “stupid people,” “corrupt,” “incompetent,” “the worst.” Trump, in the gospel according to Trump, was the victim of “hoaxes,” “witch hunts,” “lies,” “fake indictments,” “fake trials,” judges who “are animals,” a “rigged election,” “rigged indictments,” and a “rigged Department of Justice where we have radical left, bad people, lunatics.” The nation’s capital, Washington, D.C., “is a rat-infested, graffiti-infested shithole,” he said, with swastikas all over the national monuments.
His opponents, the prophet Trump continued, are “Marxists,” “communists,” “fascists,” “liars, cheaters, thugs, perverts, frauds, crooks, freaks, creeps,” “warmongers” and “globalists.” Immigrants are like a “vicious snake,” whose “bite is poisonous,” he told them, and there is an “invasion” at the border by “terrorists,” “jailbirds” and “drug lords.” “Our country is dying,” he informed them. And, by the way, “You’re very close to World War III.”
In the United States, previous elections were falsified through postal voting ... they bought ballots for $10, filled them out, and threw them into mailboxes without any supervision from observers, and that's it.
The people loved it. They swallowed every word, and they voted for him.
I can’t quite understand why this is. but I don’t find it entertaining. Depressing, would be one word, and scary, another. — Wayfarer
... is Western liberal democracy as practiced in the US. All the clever sensible people who wouldn't ever join a cult surely neglected their responsibility to educate their fellow citizens rather better than they have done, because clearly those people are not capable of educating themselves. That their cruel and imprudent behaviour to their brothers is now having undesirable consequences should have been predictable and should have been avoided, so perhaps they are not quite as clever and sensible as they think.downright utterly stupid people who basically joined a massive cult — Christoffer
All the clever sensible people who wouldn't ever join a cult surely neglected their responsibility to educate their fellow citizens rather better than they have done, because clearly those people are not capable of educating themselves. — unenlightened
When can we call these idiots actual morons? — Christoffer
clearly those people are not capable of educating themselves. — unenlightened
They swallowed every word — Wayfarer
We're talking about Americans here, in particular.Admitting that you've lost is unamerican.
— baker
How so? What is particularly 'American' about never admitting you lost? — GRWelsh
On the contrary. If what you say were true, Biden couldn't be sworn in as president. Yet he was. And so on.Think about the absurdities it would lead to. No political candidate would ever concede an election. No professional athlete or sports team would ever concede they lost a game or match. No one would ever pay up on a bet, because they'd refuse to admit they lost the bet. Society couldn't function like this.
What you're describing is far, far removed from reality. People don't admit to defeat all the time, and life goes on.What you are describing is being a sore loser or being deluded.
Not all. — wonderer1
And every time you say such things, a fence-sitter is closer to slipping off into Trump camp. — baker
Very well, given the US disenfranchizement laws, the number of disenfranchized people in the US, and those collaterally affected by such disenfranchizement.‘Republicans Nominate Secessionist Felon for President’. How’s that going to work out? — Wayfarer
In the United States, a person may have their voting rights suspended or withdrawn due to the conviction of a criminal offense. The actual class of crimes that results in disenfranchisement vary between jurisdictions, but most commonly classed as felonies, or may be based on a certain period of incarceration or other penalty. In some jurisdictions disfranchisement is permanent, while in others suffrage is restored after a person has served a sentence, or completed parole or probation.[1] Felony disenfranchisement is one among the collateral consequences of criminal conviction and the loss of rights due to conviction for criminal offense.[2] In 2016, 6.1 million individuals were disenfranchised on account of a conviction, 2.47% of voting-age citizens. As of October 2020, it was estimated that 5.1 million voting-age US citizens were disenfranchised for the 2020 presidential election on account of a felony conviction, 1 in 44 citizens.[3]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Felony_disenfranchisement_in_the_United_States
I'm talking about fence-sitters.And every time you say such things, a fence-sitter is closer to slipping off into Trump camp.
— baker
I don't think it matters, it seems that nothing matters. They won't listen to reason or criticism, they're captured by Trump's narcissistic "embrace" regardless. — Christoffer
It doesn't look like you're trying to understand people's attitudes, you're far too eager to judge.Not trying to pick a fight, I'm just trying to understand people's attitudes. — Wayfarer
It's easier on your ego to think that ...It's been years of people trying to balance things and say that we need to listen to these followers of Trump, hear their perspective on life and understand their situation. But when you listen to them, when you listen to Trump speaking to them, it's clear that they are downright utterly stupid people who basically joined a massive cult. — Christoffer
Such is democracy.No reason beating around the bush, it's stupid people who are bitter and angry against smarter people for getting more attention. Spoiled adults who behave like screaming children in stores when not getting more candy for their fat asses, and their God is Trump, a representative of themselves, just as stupid,
The irony is that various right-wing political options have a better understanding of democracy than anyone else. They understand that democracy is a dog-eat-dog fight and they don't pretend it's anything but that.but able to storm the white castle of power.
The irony is that various right-wing political options have a better understanding of democracy than anyone else. They understand that democracy is a dog-eat-dog fight and they don't pretend it's anything but that. — baker
That their cruel and imprudent behaviour to their brothers is now having undesirable consequences should have been predictable and should have been avoided, so perhaps they are not quite as clever and sensible as they think. — unenlightened
I'm talking about fence-sitters. — baker
It's easier on your ego to think that .. — baker
Such is democracy. — baker
The irony is that various right-wing political options have a better understanding of democracy than anyone else. They understand that democracy is a dog-eat-dog fight and they don't pretend it's anything but that. — baker
I'll pick the side that is *not* cheering on a mendacious narcissist wannabe dictator. — Wayfarer
How long do they think that's gonna hold? When will that house of cards fall down? — Christoffer
How is it even conceivable? — Wayfarer
I don't accept that Biden is feeble or senile or incapable. I do accept that he projects very poorly on the podium but considering the stuff he's having to deal with, and magnitude of the problems he and the world are dealing with, any number of which could literally be world-ending, I think he's doing a quite exceptional job. — Wayfarer
I think he's doing a quite exceptional job. — Wayfarer
And in this, consists a claim that is entirely incomprehensible to anyone who disagrees. — AmadeusD
I think Trump is an incompetent child, ill-fitted to working the desk at a Hotel let alone owning one. So the idea that he was President hits me as a joke. I can't grasp it fully. — AmadeusD
Sure. Trump spent huge amounts of time in his last months in office assembling success stories, so-called, but his legislative record was extremely thin — Wayfarer
Also, My point was, and this is undeniable: It is incomprehensible to the other side. The mere fact that Biden has said such utter, and complete shit as accusing blacks who vote for Trump of not being black wouuld lead to this. I'm not saying their right, or across the issues. — AmadeusD
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