The correct statement is "I am, therefore I am." — Truth Seeker
I think therefore I am. Enneatype 5
I want therefore I am. Enneatype 4
I want therefore I think. Enneatype 2
I think therefore I want. Enneatype 7
I am therefore I think. Enneatype 1
I am therefore I want. Enneatype 8
The three reflexive ones are there as well:
I am therefore I am. Enneatype 9
I think therefore I think. Enneatype 6
I want therefore I want. Enneatype 3 — Chet Hawkins
Ha ha! That is indeed the generally present response to some of my most revealing posts. But, what is being addressed here merits the merit of that set of assertions.I think therefore I am. Enneatype 5
I want therefore I am. Enneatype 4
I want therefore I think. Enneatype 2
I think therefore I want. Enneatype 7
I am therefore I think. Enneatype 1
I am therefore I want. Enneatype 8
The three reflexive ones are there as well:
I am therefore I am. Enneatype 9
I think therefore I think. Enneatype 6
I want therefore I want. Enneatype 3
— Chet Hawkins
Huh? — Lionino
What do you mean by whatever exists? How do you know your sentience exists?Real is whatever exists. For example, my sentience is real because it exists. — Truth Seeker
I am certain of the fact that I typed this sentence.What are you certain of? — Truth Seeker
I still have no way of knowing whether I am a solipsistic soul without a body or a soul in a body or a body without a soul. — Truth Seeker
In the 18th century, Thomas Bayes developed a method for quantifying Certainty : it's called "Statistics". :smile:Thank you for your reply "flannel jesus." How would I calculate what percentage of certainty I assign to things such as the objective existence of my body, other humans, non-human organisms, the Earth and the rest of the universe? — Truth Seeker
That has not changed. What is 100% certainly real to me is the experience of me being conscious. I could be a solipsistic soul without a body. I could be a soul in a body. I could be a body without a soul. In all three possibilities, I am real. By "I", I mean my sentience - the actual experience of what it is like to be me - nanosecond by nanosecond. Not all truths can be proven but that does not make them any less true. For example, I can’t prove to you that I am conscious but that does not mean that I am not conscious. You may think that I am a philosophical zombie but I assure you that I am conscious even though I can't prove it to you. Just as you are conscious even though you can't prove it to me. — Truth Seeker
Whatever exists is whatever is not imaginary. I experience my sentience. This is how I know it exists. — Truth Seeker
By "I am" I mean that my experience of being a sentient being is real for me. It is because of this experience that I am convinced that I exist. — Truth Seeker
What are you certain of? — Truth Seeker
As I said, in all three possibilities, I am real. My sentience is known to me. My sentience is real to me. My sentience is not in question. — Truth Seeker
It does not mean that at all. I can imagine an alien in my room but it is not real. The computer I am typing this message on is real. — Truth Seeker
How did he know he thinks? — Corvus
You know that you know nothing. Therefore you know something. — Corvus
There is no basis for anything other than beliefs.↪Chet Hawkins Thank you for explaining. What is the basis for your beliefs? — Truth Seeker
I suggest that this attitude is merely wrong (again). Your impressions of what happened are delusional. We as humans simply do not have the sensory apparatus to understand properly ... in any way. The position of doubt remains the most sensible, the most wise.I experience the experience of what it is like to be me. This is not a belief. This is an incontrovertible knowledge for me. — Truth Seeker
That's how I interpret "I think therefore I am"Only thing we can be sure of is the subjective experience we have. We are experiencing it no matter what be it in reality or dream, physical or real and illusion or real. — Abhiram
We cannot know about anything for sure. Definitely not 100%. Only thing we can be sure of is the subjective experience we have. — Abhiram
Get involved in philosophical discussions about knowledge, truth, language, consciousness, science, politics, religion, logic and mathematics, art, history, and lots more. No ads, no clutter, and very little agreement — just fascinating conversations.