so we know our subjective experiences for sure, and hence there is something that we know for sure, and so it is not true that we cannot know about anything for sure. — Banno
But the problem here is knowing and experiencing. You have to explain what exactly you meant by know to have a good definition. — Abhiram
Knowing is a delusion. Belief is all that we have.You know that you know nothing. Therefore you know something. — Corvus
All 'knowledge' is only a set of beliefs. There is no knowledge that is not only beliefs.I disagree. I am experiencing what it is like to be me. This is not a belief. This is a knowledge. — Truth Seeker
↪Gnomon
Can you show me the calculation, please? — Truth Seeker
Justified true belief?You have to explain what exactly you meant by know to have a good definition. — Abhiram
Whatever "it" is. Our knowledge is not limited to subjective experience. For example, that you answered my post demonstrates that you know you are a participant in a social organisation that spans the globe...Subjective experience is there we know it. — Abhiram
This is said without irony? — Banno
taking a dim view of what he described as the Wittgensteinian “thought police” (owing to the Orwellian tendency on the part of some Wittgensteinians to suppress dissent by constricting the language, dismissing the stuff that they did notlikeunderstand as inherently meaningless)
Lakatos? — Banno
Is it set in stone that nothing is set in stone? — Banno
You are clever enough to understand that we must start somewhere... — Banno
Knowledge is delusional because it implies knowing which is impossible.
— Chet Hawkins
And you know this to be so? — Banno
We can start from wherever we want. — Lionino
Again, why are you so adamant about this?Certainty is absurd! — Chet Hawkins
Is it set in stone that nothing is set in stone?
— Banno
Yes. Therefore something is set in stone. Therefore it is not set in stone that nothing is set in stone. Therefore nothing is set in stone. This is a paradox! Exactly. Further showing how nothing is set in stone. — Lionino
You are only as certain as how much you can convince yourself of certainty. — Beverley
You mean using logic?twisting language — Beverley
All 'knowledge' is only a set of beliefs. — Chet Hawkins
Well if you are going to cast doubt on something, let that something be certainty. It's my sin I guess. So certain that certainty is wrong! ;)Certainty is absurd!
— Chet Hawkins
Again, why are you so adamant about this? — Banno
All 'knowledge' is only a set of beliefs.
— Chet Hawkins
Animals know things, but what kinds of beliefs do they have? Certainly not propositional — RogueAI
twisting language
— Beverley
You mean using logic? — Banno
I have had many border collies. They do all sorts of propositional things. Language is not required. The body and the now contain the message. — Chet Hawkins
Yes, that's what I meant. Fear, anger, and desire. The anger is the being in essence. So instinct is a body or pre-differentiated memory. The body's statement for choice, the starting state, is itself just a previous choice. That is belief from being (anger), implied, waking STATE. Evolution chooses. Therefore it DID believe. It seems to try all routes (desire) but really there is math in every one (fear).Maybe for animals close to our abilities who can almost think like us, but Salmon know when and where to return to the spawning grounds. What kinds of beliefs do they have? What are they like? — RogueAI
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