If there was an omniscient and omnibenevolent person on earth what do you think would happen?
Would you even believe them? — Benj96
Would you want to speak to them? — Benj96
Would you like them or despise them? — Benj96
And how do you think humanity would react as a whole? — Benj96
Would you even believe them? — Benj96
If they preformed the demo in my house, I guess I'd be obliged to talk to them and also feed them. If they did it on CNN, I wouldn't get a chance to talk to them.Would you want to speak to them? — Benj96
I find it very difficult to dislike any benevolent person, even if they have halitosis, poor communication skills and unpleasant personal habits.Would you like them or despise them? — Benj96
Hardly at all. Humanity as whole is suspicious of knowledge (though individually we pretend to admire it) and contemptuous of kindness (though individually, we welcome it directed to ourselves, are jealous of it directed to anyone else and resentful if any material expression of it is expected of us.)And how do you think humanity would react as a whole? — Benj96
I suspect the Omni would keep their powers to themselves. They would know precisely the reactions of the human killer ape. — Tom Storm
How would we know the being was omniscient and omnibenevolent? — Punshhh
I believe they would find a way to instantaneously eradicate all sentient life. We wouldn't know or care. Nothing would happen from our perspective. — AmadeusD
Elaborate on what you mean by "omniscient" and "omnibenevolent" and how we would recognize any being possessed such properties or capabilities. — 180 Proof
By putting him/her/them in that lab. — Sir2u
I find it hard to believe they wouldn't make huge waves in society both politically and technologically. As for whether people believe they're truly good, I'm sure they'd be ridiculed as much as revered for their actions. Certainly controversial.
Keeping it to themselves could be seen as permitting ignorance, propaganda and delusion to wreak havoc on the world when one clearly knows better. — Benj96
Keeping it to themselves could be seen as permitting ignorance, propaganda and delusion to wreak havoc on the world when one clearly knows better. — Benj96
This sounds like 'human-level AGI' connected to the internet.Omniscient in this sense I guess would be understanding the totality of human knowledge on how nature works, life etc - science, philosophy, maths mechanics technology etc. I probably wouldn't extend it to "mind reading" or knowing everything about everyone's memories, private experience etc
aaa... I guess I'm positing someone who's like an encyclopaedia of objevtive truths, rather than subjective ones (opinions and beliefs), not only of what we already know but what we are yet to discover. — Benj96
This sounds totalitarian.As for benevolence ... to improve everyone's welfare.
:up: :up: I've had cold sweats from intermitten suspicions – recognition(?) – that 'the singularity' has happened already (ca.1989) and It is/They are covertly – indecipherably – doing it's/their own thing via 'the dark web', etc. The Simulation Hypothesis (or The Matrix) might be a tell, no?Another way to look at it is that such a being might already be here, there might be loads of them. How would we know? You could say, well if they were here, wouldn’t they bring an end to suffering? Well maybe they know something we don’t ( they are omniscient after all). — Punshhh
:smirk:[A]ny attempt to teach humankind to behave better results in crucifixion or at least a cup of warm hemlock. — Vera Mont
I meant 'it's a totalitarian mindset'. — 180 Proof
:up: :up: I've had cold sweats from intermitten suspicions – recognition(?) – that 'the singularity' has happened already (ca.1989) and It is/They are covertly – indecipherably – doing it's/their own thing via 'the dark web', etc. The Simulation Hypothesis (or The Matrix) might be a tell, no?
Except, one also knows that any attempt to teach humankind to behave better results in crucifixion or at least a cup of warm hemlock. — Vera Mont
A lot of people would certainly be out of a job and perhaps worse still, bereft of purpose. — Benj96
:up:[If] we were handed every solution, many would feel they had their autonomy of knowledge acquisition stolen from them. — Benj96
If this entity is omniscient, then it not only knows more that what any of us can know but it also knows better than all of us what is good for all us. No room left for 'human agency' which would be contrary to the entity's all-knowing omnibenevolence. How can such an entity not be the Keeper (caretaker, game warden) of 'the human zoo'?I don't understand how "to improve everyone's welfare" is a totalitarian mindset. — Vera Mont
No room left for 'human agency' which would be contrary to the entity's all-knowing omnibenevolence. How can such an entity not be the Keeper (caretaker, game warden) of 'the human zoo'? — 180 Proof
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