That's never stopped any civilization.I want to argue your point about being able to waste a portion of our human resources. The idea that we can waste human potentially is totally opposed to the reason for having a democracy. — Athena
Sure, you can buy that...Our wars are about defending democratic principles and everyone's human dignity. — Athena
All children are eager to learn. It takes some effort to turn them off learning. All children, like all dogs, want to be "good", valued and appreciated. It takes some effort to convince them that they are bad, unworthy, stupid and useless. Still, we manage.Teachers would be ecstatic if students were eager to learn. — Athena
That's never stopped any civilization. — Vera Mont
Sure, you can buy that... — Vera Mont
Yup. That's a great way to waste the bottom tier of their population.What? :gasp: How about the civilizations that came to an end? War leads to war and if the cause of war is not resolved, civilizations fall. — Athena
So? How does that promote or protect democracy?Absolutely. Only when leaders can convince the masses they are fighting for a good cause, will the masses be mobilized for war. That does not mean the leaders are telling the truth about the war. — Athena
No shit!PS I forgot the children in school. Have you visited inner city schools? I attended schools that became the subject of news reports about teachers suffering battle fatigue. I should say this was not the children's fault but poverty is cruel. — Athena
formal education versus autodidact learning: the absence of studied criticism in the latter — jgill
I genuinely am not 100% sure what the point of the education system is or how I would live without school, however I believe that I would further my pursuit of what I find to be real knowledge and life experience and spend my time intentionally with those I love and working towards a greater goal. — pursuitofknowlege
Not sure how you can say it is hardly a problem. We fail to agree over the fundamental building blocks of civilization itself, forget the flat Earth or vaccine debates - they are symptoms of a bigger issue, aren't they? In increasingly diverse and polarized societies, if there is no shared mainstream narrative, chaos or internecine tribalism would seem to be a consequence. Is it any wonder that some people are calling for a return to religion or Christian values as a kind of nostalgia project, harking back to a perceived golden era?
Well, I guess we could equally say that nothing needs to be a thorny issue, whether it be health care or fire arms policy. But it is.
Most adults I know agree that they have forgotten the majority of what they learnt in school — pursuitofknowlege
I kind of agree, but how would you teach 'the good' in a world where there is no agreement on what the good is or if it is anything more than perspectival. Education would seem to be lot easier in a culture where pluralism and diversity don't exist. — Tom Storm
↪Athena In the 1980's the tension in Australia was always education understood as a blunt tool to get you a job - well paid or otherwise. Education at some point ditched history and context and became obsessed with vocational outcomes rather than wisdom or preparation for an adult civic life. — Tom Storm
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