On the contrary: if determinism is true, then we are determined to assign moral culpability to everyone (i.e. beings like ourselves at least).If hard determinism is true, then no one is morally culpable — Truth Seeker
However, the degree of culpability is probably different in each case.The youngest person confirmed to have been hanged in England was Michael Hamond, aged just seven. He was hanged in King's Lynn, Norfolk, next to his sister Ann, who was 11 at the time
if determinism is true, then we are determined to assign moral culpability to everyone — 180 Proof
Is anyone actually morally culpable? — Truth Seeker
In that case, X is not actually culpable — Truth Seeker
Contrary to the popular belief, determinism has nothing to do with this. It has to do with the physics of our universe being causally closed. If it is (deterministic or random), then there can be no objective morality, or as 180 puts it:Is determinism true? How can we know for sure? — Truth Seeker
:100:There cannot be a vantage point for us outside of this causal nexus to differentiate right or wrong about assigning "actual moral culpability — 180 Proof
That's the common mistake. Determinism (or any closed physics) means that one cannot be held objectively culpable, which is very different from being held culpable.I don't take it for granted that determinism means you shouldn't hold someone culpable. — flannel jesus
I am so sorry that Michael and Ann were hanged. — Truth Seeker
Judges usually have quite broad discretionary power - if their hands are not tied with mandatory minimum sentences.How would we work out to what degree who is culpable? — Truth Seeker
Some people cannot help themselves but do what they do, regardless of whether hard determinism is true or not. But we should also not help ourselves against jailing those that pose a threat to us. It might just be that socially and psychologically stressing over a serial killer, ultimately over the question of "Why did you do that?", might be as pointless as asking the hurricane "Why did you destroy my house?" — Lionino
↪Truth Seeker What's the alternative to determinism to you? Is it just some degree of randomness sprinkled in? Like some visions of quantum mechanics suggest? — flannel jesus
But we’re so overwhelmed by the effort to answer it that we throw up our hands and fall back on a concept of blame. — Joshs
The purpose of a justice system in an Aboriginal society is to restore the peace and equilibrium within the community, and to reconcile the accused with his or her own conscience and with the individual or family who has been wronged.
It might be possible to approach harmful actions from a perspective other than assigning guilt. We might look at the person who committed a harmful act as damaged and in need of repair. Or we might consider whether that individual is able to make some kind of restitution and win forgiveness from the victim. We might look at justice from the First Nations' POV:
The purpose of a justice system in an Aboriginal society is to restore the peace and equilibrium within the community, and to reconcile the accused with his or her own conscience and with the individual or family who has been wronged. — Vera Mont
flannel jesus I don't think randomness adds culpability. — Truth Seeker
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