make sure to compare the deaths of maybe 8 or 9000 civilians to the 11 million killed in the holocaust — BitconnectCarlos
The question was, what would you do? The background being the question of the significance of the difference between things that happened and things that were/are happening. And you blew right by that. Let me then be specific. To my understanding, the hostages and accountability for 7 Oct. are open, current now issues. In your peacemaking, how do they fit in, and at what point in the process?You can't use hostage-taking as an excuse to carry on apartheid. — Tzeentch
To my understanding, the hostages and accountability for 7 Oct. are open, current now issues. In your peacemaking, how do they fit in, and at what point in the process? — tim wood
like your keffiyeh-clad friends? We don't want no two state we want all of 48. Go do your activism.
And when you do, make sure to equate the deaths of maybe 8 or 9000 civilians to the 11 million killed in the holocaust because it's like totally the same thing. — BitconnectCarlos
And it goes without saying if Israel wanted to wipe out the Palestinians it could but has taken a much more careful route. — BitconnectCarlos
Hamas employs child soldiers as young as 14 and will turn areas where children gather as the bases of their military operations. — BitconnectCarlos
Pay attention to the intentions and carefulness. — Mikie
Well...it would go back to the British Empire, actually.The other Gulf States are clearly artifical states that are a result of US divide & conquer strategy in the Middle-East. — Tzeentch
But it did. And these tiny nations, like Qatar and UAE, have been quite active on the international stage. I think the reason is simply that the US has lost it's leadership role with the Arab states that are close to it. If it's not the US, then somebody will be on their side to keep the status quo.The wealth, power and independence the other Gulf States currently enjoy is indeed artificial and would not have arisen under normal circumstances — Tzeentch
I don't think so. We have small countries all over the world: in the Caribbean, in Asia, in Europe. Someone just coming them an absorbing them isn't so likely. The countries are heavily armed and they have huge importance.they would have simply been incorporated in a greater Arabian or Persian state.
As US power wanes, these states will disappear. — Tzeentch
(20th April 2024, Al Jazeera) The United States will withdraw its soldiers from Niger as the West African nation is increasingly turning to Russia and away from Western powers.
The US Department of State agreed to pull out about 1,000 troops from the country that has been under military rule since July 2023, US media reported late on Friday.
US Deputy Secretary of State Kurt Campbell and Nigerien Prime Minister Ali Mahaman Lamine Zeine met on Friday, the reports said, with Washington committing to begin planning an “orderly and responsible” withdrawal of its troops from the country.
The US built a military base in Niger to combat armed groups that pledged allegiance to al-Qaeda and ISIL (ISIS) in the Sahel region, which also includes Burkina Faso and Mali.
The major airbase in Agadez, some 920km (572 miles) from the capital Niamey was used for manned and unmanned surveillance flights and other operations.
Known as Air Base 201, it was built at a cost of more than $100m. Since 2018, it has been used to target ISIL fighters and Jama’at Nusrat al-Islam wal Muslimeen (JNIM), an al-Qaeda affiliate.
Well...it would go back to the British Empire, actually. — ssu
And anyway, I'm not exited about calling various states as "artificial". — ssu
And these tiny nations, like Qatar and UAE, have been quite active on the international stage. — ssu
We have small countries all over the world — ssu
Furthermore, please explain just why Iran would become such a hegemon. — ssu
Great Powers, or Superpowers, are only thing important, right? — ssu
What is likely that Middle East will be still quite volatile and prone to wars even if the US withdraws from the place. — ssu
As for Amalek, Netanyahu called Hamas Amalek [...] — BitconnectCarlos
Now go and smite Amalek, and utterly destroy all that they have, and spare them not; but slay both man and woman, infant and suckling, ox and sheep, camel and ass. — Samual 1 15:3
they recently abducted and stoned to death a 14 year shepherd boy among others. — BitconnectCarlos
Every sane person can see this, and various apologists in this thread are simply digging foxholes for themselves out of unwillingness to admit it.
Their views can safely be disregarded as having fallen victim to a lapse of insanity, brought about by relentless propaganda, herd mentality and cheerleader-syndrome.
I find it hard to imagine such people making a meaningful contribution to a moral discussion, other than serving as an example of how humans can go wrong. — Tzeentch
But they had a significant role in making the region as it is now.The British haven't played a role of any significance for decades. — Tzeentch
Isn't that a bit too much assume that kind of Mearsheimerian realpolitik?Artificial in the geopolitical sense, of course. These little states would, under non-unipolar circumstances, simply be gobbled up by the real contenders for regional hegemony (Saudi-Arabia and Iran). — Tzeentch
Yet for example the tiny UAE has a larger GDP than Iran. It's population isn't growing, it's economy isn't booming and it's hard to believe a theocracy would see an economic miracle somehow. Although the government tries to promote science and technology. It has aspirations to be a Great Power, that is for sure. Especially in the 1970's many predicted Iran to become this kind of great power, but it wasn't to be so.t's the largest player in its neck of the woods, sits on a geographically and geopolitically vital area with lots of natural resources, controls half of the Persian Gulf, it has powerful allies (it's actually of gigantic economic importance to China), etc. - I could go on but I'm not going to write an essay explaining this. — Tzeentch
Small countries do exist everywhere. — ssu
These little states would, under non-unipolar circumstances, simply be gobbled up by the real contenders for regional hegemony (Saudi-Arabia and Iran). — Tzeentch
There's no unavoidability or destiny of there forming some Pan-Arabist / Islamic Caliphate / other regional hegemon in the Middle East. — ssu
Let's take for example the UAE. — ssu
Yet for example the tiny UAE has a larger GDP than Iran. It's population isn't growing, it's economy isn't booming and it's hard to believe a theocracy would see an economic miracle somehow. Although the government tries to promote science and technology. It has aspirations to be a Great Power, that is for sure. Especially in the 1970's many predicted Iran to become this kind of great power, but it wasn't to be so. — ssu
It's far more about the US wanting to build this picture of an anti-US axis. For example, there's no alliance between China and Russia. — ssu
I could claim that Palestinian SS abducted that shepherd boy. I could say that Palestinian SS murder Israeli settlers. Every single Hamas rocket fired at Israel is a war crime. — BitconnectCarlos
You see only black and white. — BitconnectCarlos
Yes, yes. That means an awful lot coming from someone who is spinning apologetics for crimes against humanity. — Tzeentch
Oh sure, and I could claim that the Polish resistance fighters who carried out the Warsaw Uprising were terrorists and criminals. — Tzeentch
Every sane person can see this, and various apologists in this thread are simply digging foxholes for themselves out of unwillingness to admit it.
Their views can safely be disregarded as having fallen victim to a lapse of insanity, brought about by relentless propaganda, herd mentality and cheerleader-syndrome.
I find it hard to imagine such people making a meaningful contribution to a moral discussion, other than serving as an example of how humans can go wrong. — Tzeentch
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