No. If that is all they are, then they are not objective (i.e. subject/pov-invariant, language-invariant, gauge-invariant AND fallibilistic).Do you agree that "objective truths" are actually shared subjective truths? — Truth Seeker
https://thephilosophyforum.com/discussion/comment/901112All of my sensory perceptions, thoughts, emotions, etc. are subjective. How can I possibly know anything objectively? — Truth Seeker
What do you mean by these truths not being actually objective? How would you characterize these supposed "objective truths"?The shared subjective truths are often referred to as "objective truths" but are not actually objective. — Truth Seeker
Are you claiming that some experiences like death and suicide are dependent upon shared subjective truths to be plausible? — javi2541997
So, your dead body would be a shared subjective truth for everyone who sees your dead body. — Truth Seeker
I see the problem. Until someone knows that you have died (either by discovering your dead body or by hearing it from someone, etc.), they still think that you are still alive. For example, my uncle died on Wednesday. I didn't know about it until several hours after he had died. Even though he was dead, I still thought that he was alive until my mum told me that my uncle had suddenly died. I think that this means there is an objective reality which we become aware of through our subjective sensory perceptions. My uncle had died in the objective reality but I didn't become aware of it until my mum told me about it. Is the way I perceive the colour green identical to the way you or another person perceives the colour green?If we take death - or suicide - as something subjective, there could be a possibility that my dead corpse could be something true for some but for others don't. — javi2541997
The shared subjective truths are often referred to as "objective truths" but are not actually objective. — Truth Seeker
I wouldn't know about it unless I find your body or someone else finds your body and tells me about it. So, your dead body would be a shared subjective truth for everyone who sees your dead body. — Truth Seeker
If objective knowledge is knowledge without reference to a mind, then it follows that no knowledge could ever be objective. — Count Timothy von Icarus
You are right. — Truth Seeker
If objective knowledge is knowledge without reference to a mind, then it follows that no knowledge could ever be objective. But in turn, it makes no sense to have a dichotomy where one side is empty and the label "subjective" applies equally to everything. — Count Timothy von Icarus
That knowledge happens inside our heads doesn't matter, because that is included in the definition of "know" already. — Lionino
I understand that. My question is, do you think that my comment is contradictory with the OP? — Lionino
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