Solipsism will most likely never be defeated, perhaps only become obsolete. — Lionino
Surely, if I am the only entity in existence, my memories would go as far back as I want them to go? — Truth Seeker
Surely, if I am the only entity in existence, my memories would go as far back as I want them to go?
— Truth Seeker
Surely not. — Lionino
But further, by saying this, it is a fact for you, me and all minds - so we know something objective about minding. We can’t escape the objective either - argument twists again - again the paradox rears its ugly head. — Fire Ologist
I disagree that knowledge needs to first pass any test. — Fire Ologist
Yes but take out the world and think about when mind 1 connects with mind 2 (as we sometimes do on this forum). Maybe we don’t know if what we say here reflects the mind independent world when we speak of some third thing, but when mind 1 agrees with mind 2, then mind 1 knows the object in mind 2’s mind. So mind 1 knows of two things: mind 2 and the object it expresses in agreement. — Fire Ologist
The very fact that we can disagree or agree means that to each of us, there is an objective world that we each measure ourselves and each other against. — Fire Ologist
Even if the objective world is constructed by minds, this world can be shared which means it isn’t only in one mind, and therefore, the objective world is still there, has to be there. — Fire Ologist
hoping the above explains why I amOr you think you are possibly totally alone, not event meaning anything you say to yourself. — Fire Ologist
Good foresight. I do think that I cannot "know" any objective world. But I do not deny that I have "access" to it. As I say, I have access to that real world by being. It is just that the instant I contemplate it, I seek to know it rather than be it, thereby displacing "my" truth with my projection.If you reply to me that you deny any objective medium is known, and I acknowledge back to you that I disagree with you, you’ve proven to yourself that my mind is out there in an illusion as an objective fact - which then means you can’t honestly say to yourself that all you know is an illusion. — Fire Ologist
All of my sensory perceptions, thoughts, emotions, etc. are subjective. How can I possibly know anything objectively? — Truth Seeker
I agree with you. What if everyone and everything is part of a bubble of solipsism? — Truth Seeker
Thank you for your reply. There is no reasonable ground for things like solipsism, simulationism and illusionism even though these are ideas we can contemplate. — Truth Seeker
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