Mind is "becoming," we agree.
As real as anything else, I'll respectfully disregard as your using a manner of speaking. — ENOAH
But, for flashing moments real. Yes. It is Real, in the present, when it affects body into feeling or action. But only in that instant, and not in the preceding or proceeding projections. And sadly or happily, "we" move right along with the projections. — ENOAH
Mind has its first cause and final effect in its natural source. Put very simply, the projections are images stored in memory (first cause). The "destination" is as code to trigger Body to a conditioned response, feeling or action,(final effect) followed . — ENOAH
Self (the one that speaks and is spoken of), to me, is neither body nor body part. — ENOAH
That Self cannot exist in the present — ENOAH
I don’t see it as a fork in the road, you going one way, me another. I think we are standing around a table looking at the same object from two different sides, each conjecturing or dabbling in the other viewpoint. — Fire Ologist
y the way, lest you thought otherwise, I wasn't disregarding the statement about as real as everything as a "manner of speaking," in any way demeaning the statement. I was assuming, as you might note from my return to an edited version, that you meant "as real as everything" as a phrase like "might as well" or "better than nothing." — ENOAH
How could religions be true when they contradict themselves and contradict each other and contradict what we know from evidence-based research? — Truth Seeker
The current western narrative at least focuses on the contradictions in religion, signifying a turn in the Dialectical battle in which Science has only recently made headway, but continues to face threats (Fanaticism, Theocracolies, Fundamentalism and Traditionalism). — ENOAH
you have been reading much and all the religious books. I am sure you would understand my points. — Corvus
The time-wasting part would be thinking about something that is unknowable in the hope of getting to the truth about it. — Janus
You said that you have been reading much and all the religious books. I am sure you would understand my points. — Corvus
In that case, truth or falsity don't belong to religious domain. Rejecting religions solely on the basis of lack of truth is not reasonable.Most religions rely on faith instead of evidence. — Truth Seeker
Most religions including Buddhism have been for the believers' wishing good fortune, prosperity, good health, good luck and better afterlife and rebirth after their deaths, rather than academic or philosophical debates on the universe or self.Buddhism is an exception in that Buddha's original teachings are based on what is empirical. — Truth Seeker
In that case, truth or falsity don't belong to religious domain. Rejecting religions solely on the basis of lack of truth is not reasonable. — Corvus
Most religions including Buddhism have been for the believers' wishing good fortune, prosperity, good health, good luck and better afterlife and rebirth after their deaths, rather than academic or philosophical debates on the universe or self. — Corvus
You are talking about totally different kind of truth which is in the Bible, i.e. the religious truth. It is not the factual or rational or even empirical truth.On the contrary, religions claim to be true. "Jesus answered, “I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me." - John 14:6, The Bible (New International Version). — Truth Seeker
There are so many different schools of Buddhism. They all claim totally different things.No, Buddha taught the Four Noble Truths and they are based on empirical observations. — Truth Seeker
You are talking about totally different kind of truth which is in the Bible, i.e. the religious truth. It is not the factual or rational or even empirical truth. — Corvus
There are so many different schools of Buddhism. — Corvus
I don't agree with you. Their truth is not philosophical or empirical truth.Truth is truth. There is no separate religious truth and factual truth or rational truth or empirical truth. Religions claim a lot of things e.g. the Biblical God created the world in six days. — Truth Seeker
It doesn't matter what Buddha taught. We notice how the historical buddhism has been, and is now in reality.I am talking about what Buddha taught. Not what different schools of Buddhism teach. — Truth Seeker
I don't agree with you. Their truth is not philosophical or empirical truth. — Corvus
It doesn't matter what Buddha taught. We notice how the historical buddhism has been, and is now in reality. — Corvus
I told ENOAH the same thing not long ago.We once again see the exact same thing, from such opposite directions, in such contrasting words, but overlapping precisely in other moments. — Fire Ologist
I told ENOAH the same thing not long ago. — Patterner
Can it ever be disproven, and is it likely, that some may have discovered memories or signs of previous life? Perhaps there is a collection of dreams, that occurred since time in mother's womb, to the present day, that preserve abstractions of former dimensionality, and self-hood they once experienced. Perhaps there are direct memories in some minds of previous life. There's reason to suggest that could be possible, and nothing to say it's unlikely — Barkon
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