To become rich is not glorious; it's antisocial — Bitter Crank
Surveillance-----Surveil the surveilors — Bitter Crank
Abortion - The right to bodily autonomy trumps the right to life of those infringing upon it; so permissible so long as birth requires inhabitation of a body, but not otherwise — The Great Whatever
It is exchanges like this that make me fall in love with thinkers all over again~↪Hanover I agree. We should be more like the Spartans and allow it after birth, too. — Michael
Morally speaking the question hinges on personhood, I would say, and how you approach that topic. — Moliere
morally speaking I am more conservative. But legally speaking I am not. I don't think the question is amenable to the necessary precision we expect of law nor should it be answered by the force of the state. — Moliere
Gun policy: personal responsibility for personal protection, no logging, tracking or licensing unless or until firearm is involved in an illegal incident. — ArguingWAristotleTiff
I think personhood begins at birth. However, an 8 1/2 month old fetus is a viable infant, probably without any help. — Bitter Crank
I don't care if it's 30 years old. — The Great Whatever
I think that you and I simply differ on where said decision should be made, then. Birth works well enough for me because it's far before the gray zone you're referring to. I'd say personhood, in the metaphysical/moral sense, occurs well after birth. — Moliere
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