I don't see any advantage in encouraging verbosity. Short is good.OPs must be more than 500 characters. — Leontiskos
Yep. And 's suggestions would reduce participation.Maybe highest on the list is the level of participation. — T Clark
I've looked around the web and I've never found any philosophy forum as good as this one. — T Clark
Good enough is good enough. — T Clark
I think your suggestions will lead to a reduction in participation. — T Clark
Short is good.
— Banno
Not according to the Site Guidelines and How to Write an OP. — Leontiskos
OPs must be more than 500 characters. — Leontiskos
You made a clear and reasonable presentation of your position in 264 words. — T Clark
an arbitrary word limit — Banno
Bah. You are obsessed with rules. Looks to be an attempt to avoid the sort of spotlight TonesInDeepFreeze shines on your logical misunderstandings and errors, an extension on your bitching about him posting too much... :rofl: — Banno
You are obsessed with rules. — Banno
1. Forum culture. A thoughtful and contemplative culture will presumably perpetuate itself and mitigate against short, unthoughtful posting. — Leontiskos
Again, your arbitrary rules would dissuade participation. — Banno
PF has managed to survive more than a dozen years of me despite my best efforts. — Banno
1. Forum culture. A thoughtful and contemplative culture will presumably perpetuate itself and mitigate against short, unthoughtful posting. — Leontiskos
2. Character thresholds. Perhaps in the future it would be helpful to add character thresholds, at least to OPs. For example, OPs must be more than 500 characters. — Leontiskos
For example, maybe users start with one thread per week and one post per 15 minutes. — Leontiskos
4. Limited editing. An unlimited ability to edit posts correlates to lower quality posts and lower quality submissions. Perhaps edits should only be allowed for a certain amount of time. — Leontiskos
5. I am of the mind that things like <site layouts> and phone accessibility have an impact on post quality. Users accessing an instant message-style website through smartphones will produce lower quality content than users accessing a publication-style website through keyboards and screens with enough real estate for comfortable reading. — Leontiskos
6. The ability to disincentivize users short of permanently banning them seems important. — Leontiskos
Perhaps edits should only be allowed for a certain amount of time. — Leontiskos
I'd agree with that, as it has been the practice for every other forum I've joined. I make use of the ability to edit but generally try and observe a rule of not editing any post after it has been replied to or quoted. — Wayfarer
I think many of the other points are up to the discretion of the mods, although I don't think any of them bad ideas. — Wayfarer
By "dying" I mostly mean degrading. There is a large and thriving community in Youtube comments, for what that is worth. Yes, messages are still being posted, but the intellectual life seems to be seeping out little by little. — SophistiCat
Bah. You are obsessed with rules. — Banno
Posting limits.For example, maybe users start with one thread per week and one post per 15 minutes. — Leontiskos
Again, you forget that not all the threads are about philosophy. There is The Shoutbox, which works like a chitchat, and it will not be effective to limit the time. — javi2541997
Thread or post limits could be helpful, at a general level or applied in special cases (e.g. categories, threads, users, etc.). — Leontiskos
On the other hand, look at the political threads. What’s the point of limiting the time and words in those threads? — javi2541997
Oh, you also refer to ‘new’ members. — javi2541997
It seems balanced and well enough as it is. — Outlander
If I have a topic I felt mildly interested in and wanted to discuss that isn't quite or perfectly aligned to philosophy but is still intellectually interesting, I'd post it in the Lounge. — Outlander
That sounds reasonable, but again I wouldn't be able to find a single thread at least currently on Page 1 that I would call "unreasonable" or without philosophical merit. — Outlander
Some very interesting discussions have came about from relatively short and simple questions. — Outlander
Some people are more eager than educated, that's true. But many contributors who now have to be manually approved by the site owner are actually very adept and have busy schedules so like to participate rapidly, if that makes sense. — Outlander
I'm not so sure about this one. It might result in people creating more threads because their understanding of a topic has changed or ignorance of something about it has receded. — Outlander
Some people can get their point across quite efficiently whether it be by a keyboard or the same keyboard just because it's smaller. It's a valid point, it's more "annoying" to type out a long series of paragraphs, having to error check, undo, etc., but far from unmanageable for an intellectual person with something to contribute. — Outlander
Basically, aside from OPs, there's a lot of short "back and forths" because while the topic is complex people's (mis)understandings of the point the OP was trying to make are actually quite simple or trivial, at least in the mind of the poster. If the person is confused, a simple reply and bare bones logic sentence is the best way to respond. I would say, at least. :chin: — Outlander
No I didn't. Did you even read my post? — Leontiskos
Perhaps encouraging more thoughtful and effortful posts for new users would elevate the philosophical standard across the board. — Leontiskos
So they don't turn into a shitshow of petty insults? Political threads are the best place for such a rule. — Leontiskos
Yes, you did. — javi2541997
It will not change anything. Politics are already bollocks and a clown show. Don’t expect the users to elaborate thoughtful answers. I can’t see the point of reading the same political dullness right now or in the next 15 minutes. Do you really think it will have a big impact on the constant tit for tat? — javi2541997
You claim a posting time limit, but you are answering me very quickly. Aren’t you realising this is not a great idea, given the way we are having this exchange? — javi2541997
3. Posting limits. Asynchronous forum software has led to instant messaging-style interactions, which are usually less than philosophical. Thread or post limits could be helpful, at a general level or applied in special cases (e.g. categories, threads, users, etc.). For example, maybe users start with one thread per week and one post per 15 minutes. — Leontiskos
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