If science, biology, is right the single purpose of life is to reproduce - pass the genes. — TheMadFool
Either way, the altruist's own genes are at risk of not being passed on to somebody else. — WISDOMfromPO-MO
Through us the universe has achieved self-awareness. — TheMadFool
It must be very disappointed, then, to find it has such a mind.Through us the universe has achieved self-awareness. — TheMadFool
It must be very disappointed, then, to find it has such a mind. — Ciceronianus the White
One really has to ponder to scientific view of life to find the sleight of hand that is being performed.
There is no altruist. There are the altruistic genes (the flip side of Dawkin's Selfish genes). So science simply anthromorphizes the gene and squeezes some behavior in it. Genes love to multiply. People don't love each other, neurons so, etc, etc, etc.
Science observes some small stuff move and then attributes any and all behavior to the small stuff. Somewhere there always had to be the mind. There is no getting away from it. — Rich
I have heard people going farther than that and saying things like abortion (and probably infanticide) is people ensuring the reproductive success needed to preserve their genes. — WISDOMfromPO-MO
1. It has to be ONE
2. It has to be objective
3. It has to be grand — TheMadFool
It isnt rational — Beebert
It depends on what you mean by one — Beebert
What do you mean objective? — Beebert
Everything that is singular, grand and objective is also reducible, banal and subjective. — Nils Loc
(Y)To better understand what or who we are? — Rich
altruistic behavior from one person increases the chances of reproductive success for those close to the altruist who are carrying some of the same genetic material.
Either way, the altruist's own genes are at risk of not being passed on to somebody else. — WISDOMfromPO-MO
The purposes of our lives that we set for ourselves are the most "meaningful" purposes that we have access to. Many of us differ in terms of what we think constitutes a worthwhile purpose, and generally we choose purposes which make us happy (in the short or long run, and with open or closed eyes). — VagabondSpectre
To convince a fish, you need an argument that self-awareness is more valuable than swimming. — unenlightened
It must be very disappointed, then, to find it has such a mind — Ciceronianus the White
I doubt that you will ever get anyone to agree on all of these, so it can never be objective.
Unless of course you are willing to accept that the only meaning of life is to live it. — Sir2u
what we see is that reproduction is the prime motivator - flowers, nectar, colorful feathers, pheromones, aggression, etc. Without reproduction life is impossible — TheMadFool
Take the analogy of the movie. You seem to be saying that each person has his/her own role to play. However, if there's no overarching organization to these roles, the movie, play would be absolute nonsense. What then of subjective meaning? Surely, it too is nonsense — TheMadFool
But the epic tale of all life on earth is hideously long and follows no compelling arc; the human vignette is far more satisfying... — VagabondSpectre
let other people see life differently. — Rich
It's about aware awareness not truth — Rich
Value is, at least in part, attached to uniqueness and we are unique, being the only rational animal. Imagine a room full of blind people. Each person has his/her own talents but ALL are blind. Now, you walk in and presuming you're sighted, you're then given the responsibility of seeing for the blind people. It's something like that. — TheMadFool
Oh, you mean like bats have this unique echo-location sense that we monkeys don't, so the universe must be all about them. — unenlightened
Not everyone poses this question to themselves, but those who do find different answers which tend to change over time. — Rich
I agree the meaning of life can change over time but right now, the meaning I described seems to be the best fit. — TheMadFool
The human mind is unique in that respect. We're the only animals with a well developed mind that enables to examine everything in the universe. We hold the magic mirror and we reflect the universe and all its contents on it. No other animal can do what we do.
I'm not saying other animals aren't unique but I am saying that their uniqueness doesn't allow them to examine the world like we can. — TheMadFool
You're missing the point (I think deliberately). Bats can't study us but we can study them. Have you seen a book on humans written by bats? The human mind is unique in that respect. — TheMadFool
That we are the Crown of Creation is not a new idea, but neither is the idea that we are a terrible mistake. — unenlightened
He found some meaning to his life. What's the problem? You prefer I AM ROBOT? — Rich
If you're satisfied with it, fine but many aren't. They decry the meaninglessness of life. It leads them down the path of depression, pushing them over the edge into death's embrace. Such men/women seek objective and grand meaning - the meaning of life. How do you deal with such people? — TheMadFool
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