Now I have to disagree.
It is a war. Trying to make this conflict to be something else is wrong in my view. A low intensity conflict or a conflict that erupts every once and a while is a war. Even with the 100-years war there were moments when nothing happened with large battles being the exception. — ssu
driven by religious extremists on both sides.
Your willful ignorance is stunning, BC. :sweat:I don't believe Zionism is inherently correlated to Jewish religiosity.
I don't think ... — BitconnectCarlos
If you offered arguments, you didn't offer evidence. And your argument is like saying that all Americans support the Democrats, because they are in power. And Hamas hold little if anything now, with the West Bank being in control of the Fatah. Which makes your arguments simply poor.But I offered arguments and evidences, not slogans. — neomac
Really, it doesn't!A war requires two sovereign nations. — Benkei
BitconnectCarlos apparently thinks in terms of erasing Hamas entirely, except others will emerge, plus there are other neighbors (mentioned by Tzeentch). What about two states? — jorndoe
The "right of return" results in the destruction of Israel. So no, Hamas does not strive for peace with Israel. For the millionth time, they seek to destroy it. As they always have. — BitconnectCarlos
.If you offered arguments, you didn't offer evidence — ssu
And your argument is like saying that all Americans support the Democrats, because they are in power. And Hamas hold little if anything now, with the West Bank being in control of the Fatah. Which makes your arguments simply poor. — ssu
It's an armed struggle sure but that doesn't make it war. — Benkei
"WAR: a state of armed conflict between different countries or different groups within a country.
Which is understandable, because with the armed resistance comes the Israeli bombs. In "peace time" the authoritarian rule of Hamas among other issues can be a problem, but comparing that to be bombed all the time and have to move around and not be in your home, that is quite little. Something like "rallying around the flag". Which btw shows that both sides, Hamas and Bibi's government, aren't looking for a peaceful solution here.For example, in my previous post I claimed “Palestinians seem more supportive of Hamas armed resistance in war time than Hamas administration in peace time — neomac
All members shall refrain in their international relations from the threat or use of force against the territorial integrity or political independence of any state, or in any other manner inconsistent with the purposes of the United Nations. — Un charter 2(4)
On a more serious note, I shouldn't have to explain this to you. Consider traveling to Israel. Then you'll see why so much blood has been shed over it. — BitconnectCarlos
You should explain why people's rights cannot be exercised. — Benkei
Consider traveling to Israel. — BitconnectCarlos
Then quote the international lawyer idiot who says so, because that is bullshit. Very whimsical to hold on definitions that don't at all describe the reality, but then naturally we have had the "special military operation" going on in Ukraine for a while. (Not a war by Russian lawyers, so evidently your lawyers have to be correct!!!)No international lawyer describes it as a war because these aren't groups within the same country, it's a group in an occupied territory and another group from a country. The occupied territory is not considered a sovereign nation and even the recent recognition doesn't change this, because there's no de facto sovereignty if you do not control your own territory. It doesn't meet the standards for war, which in any case isn't the appropriate definition anymore. — Benkei
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