Also, to apply your fantastic moral compass to all those Jews killed in ww2: "sorry, they lost!" — Benkei
We have the answer: obliterate the hospital, and everyone in it. Since they’re non-human anyway, it doesn’t matter much. — Mikie
I have nothing against Jews in Israel. — Benkei
Also, to apply your fantastic moral compass to all those Jews killed in ww2: "sorry, they lost!" — Benkei
:snicker:Let me know when all Palestinians are required to register with Israeli authorities. — BitconnectCarlos
The Population Registry Office is responsible for updating and archiving the Palestinian population registry held by Israel, in coordination with the Palestinian Authority.
In accordance with diplomatic agreements between Israel and the Palestinian Authority, full responsibility for administering the population registry and providing services to Palestinian residents of the area has been passed to the Palestinian Authority.
The Population Registry Office works to update population registry files located on the Israeli side to match the files that are held by the Palestinian Authority.
Judea and Samaria
Areas of Responsibility and Services
Updating the Palestinian population registry file on the Israeli side
Handling of visas for foreigners who request to stay in the area
Tracking and oversight of address changes, marital status changes, births, deaths, and more
Provision of information to national entities as well as to entities authorized in accordance with the needs and instructions of the law
Handling of Palestinian Authority requests for visitors' permits for foreigners, with the approval of COGAT
Handling of Palestinian Authority requests connected with the Palestinian population registry for Palestinian residents and foreigners, with the approval of COGAT
Gaza Strip
Areas of Responsibility and Services
Updating of the population registry in the Israeli authority systems – passports, certificates, identification cards, etc.
Verification of familial relations for Israelis crossing between Israel and the Gaza Strip
Handling of exceptional crossing requests for foreigners and miscellaneous persons staying in the Gaza Strip without documentation
Handling of exceptional requests of Palestinians requiring recognition of their status in Israel, in the framework of naturalization, in cooperation with the Ministry of Interior
Israel actually sent in special commando troops to al-shifa hospital. I don't believe any civilians were killed during the operation miraculously. — BitconnectCarlos
Well, you did have the Warsaw Ghetto Uprising, so things have gone quite similarly in that case.Anyway, if the Palestinian territories were actually like a Nazi ghetto then both the PA and Hamas would be unquestionably subordinate to the Israeli government and Israel would be able to replace them as they like. — BitconnectCarlos
So which one is a better neighbor? An Arab state which you have a peace agreement that is able to guard it's side of the border or a failed state that doesn't have the ability to control it's borders? — ssu
Yet the fact is that the current Israeli administration does not want a peace agreement. Likud and it's fellow parties have been quite consistent in this. They have in writing said this and one should believe their word on this. This is absolutely crucial to understand, and this comes out very clearly from Likud's party's original charter from 1977:
The Right of the Jewish People to the Land of Israel (Eretz Israel) — ssu
Hamas is a preferable Palestinian entity for Bibi (as shown from the fact that prior to October 7th the administration supported financially Hamas). You don't have to negotiate with terrorists. And you can continue building settlements in the West Bank.
That's why I don't believe in peace emerging in this war. This conflict can easily continue our lifetime and the lifetime of the next generation. — ssu
see here
See also
Netanyahu: Money to Hamas part of strategy to keep Palestinians divided
For years, Netanyahu propped up Hamas. Now it’s blown up in our faces
‘Buying Quiet’: Inside the Israeli Plan That Propped Up Hamas
A Brief History of the Netanyahu-Hamas Alliance — ssu
Well, you did have the Warsaw Ghetto Uprising, so things have gone quite similarly in that case. — ssu
A genuine forever war would be the apt term here. — ssu
As well the zionfascist (Likud) regime also "must be" "completely replaced". :mask:Which is why the victory must be complete and Hamas completely replaced. — BitconnectCarlos
Here's a two-state solution and how to get there:
1. Israel to unilaterally recognise a right for the Palestinians to have a sovereign state where the 1967 borders will be the basis for the size of Palestine
2. stop all further settlements in WB and evictions in East-Jerusalem, recognise ownership rights in East Jerusalem
3. repeal all discriminatory laws in Israel proper
4. no more collective punishment of Palestinians
5. no more blockade of Gaza and its air space and sea
6. no more mass destruction in response to ineffectual missiles or balloons
7. tear down the wall
8. For the interim period, Gaza and WB remain occupied territories but they will be policed instead of military oppression
9. Palestinians to commit to an indefinite cease fire as long as Israel maintains the above 8 points
edit: 10. forgot: Palestinians to recognise Israel along the 1967 borders as the basis of the size of israel
In other words, stop the crimes. There's no excuse.
Enter into the transition period where Palestine should be set up:
1. include the political wing of Hamas in talks as well as PA
2. land-for-land exchanges to arrive at comparable land size
3. Israel to pay Palestine an amount equal to all the monies spent supporting illegal settlers so it has the means to settle the new lands it receives through the land-for-land exchange
4. Palestine to hire their own first and Israeli contractors second (which will lead to "reparations" flowing back to Israel and creating economic interdependence)
5. have religious leaders negotiate the Temple Mount
6. Jerusalem as independent city-state administered by Palestinians and Israelis alike
7. gradually transition policing activities in Palestine to Palestinians
8. Set up a special task force of like minded Israelis and Palestinians to investigate (terrorist) crimes committed by Israelis against Palestinians and vice versa, where jurisdiction will be with the state of the victim
9. retreat from WB and Gaza and set up border controls
10. Declare a Palestinian state
11. Party with your Israeli neighbours — Benkei
1. Israel to unilaterally recognise a right for the Palestinians to have a sovereign state where the 1967 borders will be the basis for the size of Palestine — Benkei
Then why "unilaterally" ?edit: 10. forgot: Palestinians to recognise Israel along the 1967 borders as the basis of the size of israel — Benkei
8. For the interim period, Gaza and WB remain occupied territories but they will be policed instead of military oppression — Benkei
9. Palestinians to commit to an indefinite cease fire as long as Israel maintains the above 8 points — Benkei
a war crime apologist — Benkei
aggression — 180 Proof
Additionally, the Palestinians have a continual right to self defence meaning any IDF soldiers in Gaza and West Bank and any settlers there are fair game. And any military campaign in Israel proper aimed against military targets would be allowed too. — Benkei
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