A member of a species has to be an organism, taken as a whole, of that species — Bob Ross
This is circular.
This is basic biology. It is a member of the human species if it that certain kind of animal: homo sapien. — Bob Ross
Well, I wouldn't say that homo sapiens are single-celled animals.
When, for you, does an organism become a member of its species? — Bob Ross
How do you explain what it means to be a Homo sapiens?
Bob Ross has dragged the discussion back to essentialism again. "It's human, so you mustn't kill it", ignoring capital punishment and war and euthanasia. — Banno
All this is insubstantial in the argument I presented to you. We have on the one hand a woman, perhaps a nurse, perhaps a CEO, perhaps a sister, mother, daughter, perhaps a care giver or volunteer. Someone who can express their needs, who makes plans and seeks to fulfil them and who has a place in our world.
We have on the other hand, a group of cells.
That you value those cells over the person who must carry them is heinous.
That "exactly" is again a pointer to essentialism. What gives someone moral worth need not be a single characteristic or even a given group of characteristics. The rope is a rope despite no one thread running through it's whole length. There need be no essential common feature but instead a series of overlapping similarities. But when we stand back and consider what is before us, it is one rope.What exactly is the argument? — Count Timothy von Icarus
Considering this is one of the more fraught moral dilemmas of our time, I am not sure if "it just is, and if you don't agree there is nothing to say," is a particularly good argument. — Count Timothy von Icarus
It ought be the person carrying the blastocyst who has the main say in what to do with it.
When, for you, does an organism become a member of its species? Anything you say is going to be utterly arbitrary, if it is not conception. — Bob Ross
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