I'm all over. — Rich
You can "rule" whatever you want, in any way you want, so what? Or why should anyone pay any attention? Ruling doesn't make something so. — tim wood
What have you got against the something, that I'm calling reality? — tim wood
The point between us is simply, and irreducibly, that I say there's something that corresponds to the tree, and you say there is not. If this isn't your position. maybe best to clarify here.
That is, reality, yes or no. — tim wood
What does "ultimate metaphysical status of the tree" mean? If you mean that there is something that corresponds to the tree and grounds our perceptions and knowledge of it, then we agree. If you mean that all that we can know about the tree is both conditioned and limited by our senses and whatever tests we can perform on the tree whether directly or indirectly, then we agree. If, however, you will not or cannot go so far as to affirm the reality of the tree - that it or whatever it is that corresponds to our perception of it is real - and thus argue that it is not the case that the tree is real and eo ipso there is no reality, then we do not agree at all. — tim wood
If interpretation doesn't go on in the brain, pray tell, where does it go on? — Bitter Crank
I do think that the tree is real, and that what we know about it is conditioned by what we are and what it is. When the question 'what is the tree, ultimately (metaphysically) speaking' is asked, we have reached the limits of language, because 'what it is' means only in regard to what is experienced. So, there is nothing determinate beyond our experience, but the Real is not exhausted by our experience. — Janus
i can't see how the idea of determination could have any sense outside the context of human experience. — Janus
This compounded by all the evidence that whatever is real and out there is continuously changing in some manner. Thus there is never a "state" but rather a form in flux that the mind can name and compare with other minds, and in doing so can agree on a name. — Rich
There is much you can do to become happy and well adjusted to the times, but adversity will hit you harder, and the more you specialize, the faster you'll become obsolete. — Wosret
Only in practice are people better at this or that than someone with a higher fluid intelligence, as they put overwhelmingly more time into it, but all things being equal, the one with the fluid intelligence is better at everything, as they would improve more quickly, learn it faster, find easier ways to do it. — Wosret
If I see the apple as a rigid, defined object and not as a swirling whirlwind of indistinguishable matter, I am better suited for the world. My point being: (1) I agree with you that reality as we observe it is reducible to what we can agree upon, and (2) there is no reason to believe that the data we have in our heads offers an accurate depiction of the world. — Hanover
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