• Wayfarer
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    What I don't understand is why Trump voters are so eager to have more inflation.ssu

    Perhaps they have little idea what they actually were voting for.

    Already, true to form, the headlines are being dominated by ethical scandals and cover-ups sorrounding Trump's picks. A Fox News anchor to run the Pentagon, and a man credibly accused of trafficking underage minors for sex to run Justice Department. And it's two months before the actual Presidency even begins.
  • Christoffer
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    What I don't understand is why Trump voters are so eager to have more inflation.ssu

    Because they don't know how inflation works. They don't know these things, and since they don't know any of it, they're gullible enough to listen to someone speak in a charismatic way and be emotionally charged with passion for something they only think is good because their leader said so.

    If he stood there and promoted eating shit is healthy for you I would guarantee some people would do it just because he said so. People are generally absolute morons because it takes effort to not be one, and lazy people won't put in the effort. While education helps some, a lot of people are generally just incapable of overcoming their idiotic state of being. It's too ingrained by other morons around them as an epidemic echo chamber of bad influences.
  • Relativist
    2.6k
    What I don't understand is why Trump voters are so eager to have more inflation.ssu
    They don't understand economic policies and their effects. They blame Biden for the inflation of the past few years (not the global supply chain problems that COVID produced), simply because he was in office, so it follows that this can't happen with their hero in office.
  • Fooloso4
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    .How many will follow Gaetz and not even make it through the beginning of the nomination process? Hegseth seems like a good bet.
  • Christoffer
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    .How many will follow Gaetz and not even make it through the beginning of the nomination process? Hegseth seems like a good bet.Fooloso4

    Trump is in a peculiar position as nominating these morons sends a signal to his Maga crowd that he's fighting back against the "deep state", but it will only lead to these positioned people screwing up and show that what Trump is doing is fundamentally incompetent and that everyone is a clown that ruins everything. But if he backs out of it, he's gonna show himself being weak and that the "deep state" is winning, and for a narcissistic fascist like Trump, showing weakness is loss.

    So what will the clown do? :chin:
  • Fooloso4
    6.1k
    So what will the clown do? :chin:Christoffer

    Blame everyone but himself.
  • NOS4A2
    9.3k
    As we’re winding down the one-term presidency, the demented Joe Biden gives Ukraine the go-ahead and the weaponry to fire ballistic missiles into Russia, further escalating the war and leaving a mess for the next administration and the world.

    Not a single word from Trump detractors who are no doubt busy doing god’s work psychoanalyzing their folk devil.
  • RogueAI
    2.8k
    Not a single word from Trump or his people either, about the change in policy. What are you expecting Trump to do about Ukraine?
  • NOS4A2
    9.3k
    Well, it’s appointment time, and we all know what that means: time to trot out sexual allegations. They say Matt Gaetz was “credibly accused”, but they won’t mention the DOJ never brought charges because the accusers had credibility problems. Of course the opposite is the case: he was incredibly accused.

    The 17-year-old at issue in the investigation was also on that trip, though by that time she was already 18 or older, people familiar with the matter have said. She has been a central witness in the investigation, but people familiar with the case said she is one of two people whose testimony has issues that veteran prosecutors feel would not pass muster with a jury.

    Greenberg’s credibility would be a significant challenge for any prosecution of Gaetz, in part because one of the crimes Greenberg admitted to was fabricating allegations against a schoolteacher who was running against him to be a tax collector.

    https://archive.ph/3HK6F

    Oh well, it seemed to have worked. Innocent or guilty, The Machine will chew them up and spit them out.
  • Wayfarer
    22.5k
    The silver lining is that Gaetz is out of the game. No doubt he will join the rogues' gallery that will comprise the Trump Regime, but him being out of Congress is a plus.
  • NOS4A2
    9.3k

    What scandal will they manufacture?
  • Metaphysician Undercover
    13.2k
    As we’re winding down the one-term presidency, the demented Joe Biden gives Ukraine the go-ahead and the weaponry to fire ballistic missiles into Russia, further escalating the war and leaving a mess for the next administration and the world.NOS4A2

    Yes, war seems to be ramping up, contrary to Trump's claim that if elected he'd have the war stopped before even taking office, because he knows Putin so well. It appears like Trump's close ties to Russia will be significantly strained this term, by this clash of personalities, as each of these individuals attempts to prove oneself to be the most powerful man in the world. This time around though, Trump will acknowledge no debt owed to Russia for his position. The dog unleased will turn on the master, and the table is set for disaster.
  • unenlightened
    9.2k
    What I don't understand is why Trump voters are so eager to have more inflation.
    — ssu

    Perhaps they have little idea what they actually were voting for.
    Wayfarer

    While one who sings with his tongue on fire
    Gargles in the rat race choir
    Bent out of shape from society’s pliers
    Cares not to come up any higher
    But rather get you down in the hole
    That he’s in

    But I mean no harm nor put fault
    On anyone that lives in a vault
    But it’s alright, Ma, if I can’t please him
    — Bob Dylan

    I think it's called "spite".
  • NOS4A2
    9.3k


    Biden ramped it up for no other reason than politics. No press conference, no nothing. Given the chicken-little approach of anti-trumpism, I fear it’s a sinister ploy to knee-cap the incoming administration for political reasons.

    We’ll have to see what Trump does. In any case, whatever they do, it will be an order of magnitude greater in transparency.
  • Metaphysician Undercover
    13.2k
    Biden ramped it up for no other reason than politics.NOS4A2

    What a surprise. Aren't all wars about politics?

    We’ll have to see what Trump does. In any case, whatever they do, it will be an order of magnitude greater in transparency.NOS4A2

    Don't hold your breath on that one. Remember, he said he'd stop the war before taking office. Is it transparent what he is doing now?
  • ssu
    8.6k
    I think it's called "spite".unenlightened

    Spite?

    I think that Americans were quite unhappy with inflation, that actually was caused by deliberate policies starting with Trump, but effectively finished by Biden. Everything else was given as a reason, except the massive transfer of money to the consumer thanks to the Pandemic.

    Brexit actually gives a perfect example of how voters react to bad populist policies. Brexit was said to give frictionless trade and new deals around the world. End rampant immigration. The UK would be finally in charge itself. Above all, it was anti-elitist! Spite, as @unenlightened remarked. And from outside of the country looking at it, it went something like this:

    1) First enthusiasm: People won the elites, hooray! Finally somebody is doing something good.
    2) Then silence but still waiting for the positive effect: Give some time for it to work!
    3) Then denial: Actually, we have gotten something good. It's not so bad.
    4) Then amnesia: Look at how awful everything is now. Labor's fault.

    I'd bet that if Trump really goes through with kicking out millions from the country, issuing huge sales taxes, sorry, tariffs, prices will go up. Even Elon Musk, who has a brain, understands that it will cause hurt. Well, even if Trump isn't running for re-election, we know his persona.

    And let's remember that a populist movement can simply believe that all the bad things have happened because of the evil a) deepstate, b) woke people or c) nasty foreigners. If a political movement transforms to a cult, it doesn't matter if the economy totally collapses. They can blame somebody else. In fact, Trump then can take the punchlines from Maduro, if everything goes to hell in a handbasket:

    Supporters of Chávez and Maduro said the problems result from an "economic war" on Venezuela, falling oil prices, international sanctions, and the business elite

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    While the Venezuelan economy, well:

    Per-capita-GDP-Venezuela-1920-2020.ppm

    Gal2mHCX0AA9RHJ.jpg:large

    Of course Venezuela is different. But the policy choices there were populist and horrible. As I said, the impact of millions kicked out of the labor force and out of being consumers, then having trade wars with everybody can be nasty. What is the outcome of +10% tariffs for Haiti? Haiti exports over 80% of all of the meager stuff it produces to the US. Even if the society is on the verge of collapse, will this help? How will then this all show on the US border, especially if (when) other poor Latin American countries have bad economic difficulties?
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