Another broken anti-Trumper self-immolating upon his beliefs in an act of terrorism.

Who?

Ahhh, the h1b-visas :hearts: ! The cornerstone of US science and technology, that the nativists simply hate. Funny thing that DOGE hasn't even started and some Trumpers are having their fits against Donald's favorite native African.

In fact, when Elon naturally won't part from his businesses when working for the government (of course not!) it's going to be interesting to see just how much power a DOGE will really have. And if it's "trillions" of waste that is put away, I wonder just how appreciated most favorite immigrant will really be among the Trump base.

“The subject held no animosity towards the president-elect,” ..
... he had cast his vote for Trump in November's election.

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/world/us/tesla-cybertruck-driver-matthew-livelsberger-had-no-animosity-towards-trump-suffered-from-ptsd-fbi/articleshow/116933571.cms

Another broken anti-Trumper self-immolating upon his beliefs in an act of terrorism. — NOS4A2

Yeah, but no, but. Just edit out that "anti-".

The hammer only sees nails.

Oh yeah the Trump guy tries to blow up Trump tower with a cybertruck. The FBI told us so.

And your impeccable, fair-minded, and honest sources are?

One cannot blame Trump because some of his followers are violently inclined and irrational; oh wait, actually one can and should, because that is exactly what his message advocates and encourages. It is not remotely surprising that the violence ends up turned against him, and it has already happened more than once. But yeah the FBI are making up these stories because deep state lizard pedophiles are trying to control our brains.

My source? You’re talking to him. I prefer my own conclusions to the conclusions of others, especially authorities. If I’m wrong I’m wrong, but if you’re wrong it’s because you’re credulous.

My source? You’re talking to him. I prefer my own conclusions to the conclusions of others, especially authorities. If I’m wrong I’m wrong, but if you’re wrong it’s because you’re credulous. — NOS4A2

You're my source too, but unlike you, I check my sources bit and confront them with contradictory sources. And when their response is to behave like big floppy dick and admit that they just spout whatever they like to imagine to be the case, I draw the appropriate conclusion.

I have a question about this discussion. Once Trump is installed and has put his incompetent but loyal staff in place, there will be countless opportunities to critique their screwups. Will we be allowed to fan out on this duscussion thread to discuss all the chaos the incompetent ones will be generating or must we focus only on Trump?

It’s January 6th, today. As a final kick to the pants, Kamala has to attend her ceremonial duties today and do the Electoral count. There could be some fireworks.

Speaking of pants, and kicks... Source: The guy's parents, his uncle, his manifesto...

Source: other people. Believe everything they say.

What a surprise that the cybertruck guy was a MAGA nut. :rofl:

Source: other people. Believe everything they say. — NOS4A2

You are an other person, and you are completely incredible.

Of course.

Yet denial is so sweet for the Maga-people.

I just love how Trump so clearly shows just what he is, even before taken the oath and before starting his administration:

“I’ve always liked the visas, I have always been in favor of the visas. That’s why we have them,” Trump said by phone, referring to the H-1B program, which permits companies to hire foreign workers in specialty occupations.

“I have many H-1B visas on my properties. I’ve been a believer in H-1B. I have used it many times. It’s a great program,” added Trump, who restricted access to foreign worker visas in his first administration and has been critical of the program in the past.

I didn't change my mind, we have to have the most confident people in our country, we need confident people, we need smart people coming into our country and we need a lot of people coming in — Trump

:blush: :heart:

The best thing is how now all the Laura Loomer's (that are silenced in X after trolling free-speach warrior Elon) have to just shut up and suck it up to the infallible God-Emperor Trump. Because the next time they can voice their anger about how things are going in the US is only afterwards when the Democrats take to power. Only then can they say the truth. Now it's the time of faith and waiting... just like when Brexit happened, a wonderful economic revival was just around the corner for free UK. And still, same people believe in Nigel Farage (because he was so wise to go off from politics after the vote had been won).

This all before it has even started, before even the first gut punch against the poorer American from DOGE has not even swung yet. :lol:

Heck, I don't have even my popcorn ready and the show has already started.

It is funny, in a way, because Anti-immigrant Trump supporters fell for the lie that Trump was anti-immigrant just as anti-Trumpers did. Someone like Ann Coulter comes to mind. It’s the same with the racist Trump supporters. They believed the lie just as anti-Trumpers did, then they get disappointed when they find out it isn’t true; or, in the case of anti-Trumpers, they just keep on believing it.

You are an other person, and you are completely incredible.

I guess it’s a good thing I don’t value your opinion.

Since the minions will all be connected to the man as a minimum requirement for participation, it will not be like the Team of Rivals ascribed by some to the Lincoln administration.

Far from opposing the evils of government, the system of patronage will blossom during the impending administration.

It is funny, in a way, because Anti-immigrant Trump supporters fell for the lie that Trump was anti-immigrant just as anti-Trumpers did. — NOS4A2

What are you rambling about?

Opposing H-1B visas wasn't a Trump tweet, it was a policy implemented by Trump.

On June 22, 2020, the Trump administration issued a presidential proclamation suspending the entry of individuals to the United States on select nonimmigrant visas, including H-1B, H-2B, J-1, and L-1 visa holders, as well as their dependents.The order comes as an expansion of the Trump administration’s executive order from April 22, 2020, suspending the entry of individuals traveling to the United States on immigrant visas. The April 2020, order included a provision tasking the Secretary of Labor and the Secretary of Homeland Security to review various nonimmigrant visa programs to determine their potential impact to unemployed U.S. workers returning to work as stay-at-home orders are lifted.

The June 22 suspension expands the travel ban to several core temporary work visa categories. The suspension will now cover persons holding H-1B, H-2B, J-1 and L-1 visas.

And btw the only one consistent here on the issue has of course been Elon Musk, not Trump:

Tech leaders have criticized President Donald Trump’s latest immigration crackdown on the visa programs that their companies rely on to employ thousands of staff.

Trump signed an executive order on Monday that suspends foreign work visas including the L-1 visa that allows firms to transfer staff from overseas offices and the H-1B visa that enables companies to hire highly skilled people in certain fields.

Google’s Sundar Pichai, YouTube’s Susan Wojcicki and Tesla’s Elon Musk were quick to condemn the restrictions, as were representatives from Amazon, Facebook and Twitter.

Musk said that he disagreed with the action “very much” on Twitter. “In my experience, these skillsets are net job creators,” he wrote. “Visa reform makes sense, but this is too broad.”

So I have no idea just what "lie" you are talking about. This is just a perfect example of Trump U-turns and how he lies about everything. Perhaps building the Wall was a similar lie "that Anti-Immigrant supporters of Trump fell for". Well then, what the hell does he stand for then? For his own enrichment I guess... How is the good for his voters?

After all, opposing H-1b visas was one of the reasons why Trump was so popular in the first place:



And btw, the ordinary Trump lie is that his company used H-1b visas (which ought not to be, according to candidate Trump), but actually H-2b visas, the one's for not so highly educated professionals. :grin: