Of all the fucked up things the US government [...] — Tzeentch

Already suggested you put together a thread on these things. Hit it.
(Don't you already have a mile-long list + who where when + means motive opportunity etc?)

Why haven't you and all the others made such a thread?

Surely if you care this much about Trump and whatever bullshit lawsuit they managed to land, then I'd expect you to be tearing the place down over the actual evil the US perpetrates and has perpetrated on a daily basis.

For all of your sakes I hope on some deeper level you realize how childish this phoney exhibition of moral indignation is. If not, then it really begs the question of what you are doing on a philosophy forum - you obviously don't have the disposition for it. Go back to Twitter or something.

It seems that all agencies will now have a Doge minder.

https://bsky.app/profile/joshtpm.bsky.social/post/3lhx4akbffs2z

J D Vance goes for monarchy-oligarchy?

You Cant Do That Bro (— Politics Girl · Feb 11, 2025 · 2m:57s)

(I don't know the legal details.)

Since this (counter-propaganda) is making the rounds again ... :D

A day in the Life of Sue Republican (— Sonny Vermont · Jul 5, 2022)

, you seem to have extensive information on the topic + keep bringing it up in other threads ... isn't whipping up a thread the next natural move?

I consider this good news:

[b]Trump administration sues New York state over immigration[/b]

Attorney General Pam Bondi said Wednesday that the Justice Department is suing the state of New York and its top officials for prioritizing "illegal aliens over American citizens."

"As you know, we sued Illinois and New York didn't listen. So now you're next," Bondi said....

Bondi, in her first news conference since being confirmed, said “millions” of people “with violent records have flooded into our communities, bringing violence and deadly drugs with them,” and that states like New York with permissive immigration policies were contributing to the problem.


I welcome this, because it will lead to a rational analysis of the facts. It's well known that the crime rate among immigrants is lower than the general population. The Trump side can argue that even a single violent act by an immigrant would have not occurred if the particular culprit weren't here.

But there's another relevant factor: undocumented immigrants fearful of being deported are unlikely to report crimes committed against them. That's why police departments have historically refrained from enquiring about this and taking action. Perfect border enforcement is impossible, so my going-in assumption is that this argument will be dispositive.

A trial will constitute a well-moderated debate of the facts. I'll be surpised if Trump wins this, but either way, it will provide a good opportunity for critical thinkers to make an informed, rational judgement.

Every illegal alien has committed a crime. That’s a 100% crime rate.

Every illegal alien has committed a crime. That’s a 100% crime rate. — NOS4A2

Sure, though the accusations have been drugs murder rape ... that's a few dealers murderers rapists (according to P01135809) ... (and cat eaters or something :grin:) ... Some of this stuff brings up memories, ah never mind, you wouldn't understand anyway.

Remember when Biden cancelled the border wall then two years later his own party begged him to restart it again? I bet life was a breeze not having to pay attention back then.

RFK Jr. Confirmed.

So this thread is now just a venue for delusional Trump cultists to give Twitter updates and repeat news stories that everyone already knows. Cool.

So this thread is now just a venue for delusional Trump cultists to give Twitter updates and repeat news stories that everyone already knows. Cool. — Mikie

I’ve asked about it previously and it seems so. Rather than being a thread of discussion it’s just a propaganda channel for Trump evangelism.

Not sure what the point is. Maybe it could be cleaned up of meaningless spam propaganda? If a link doesn’t come with any substantial comment, maybe don’t allow it? Otherwise it’s just gonna fill up with spam.

It is a place for Trump apologists to try out their messages. Perhaps it makes them stronger but sometimes they stop saying particular things.

RFK Jr in
Health workers out
Regress

Who's this good for anyway?
Sue Republican?

Who's this good for anyway? — jorndoe

There's some good in it for those who will save or make money.

The fundamental problem is that the negative consequences will be: 1) marginal - the majority of people won't suffer directly from failures to find treatment for diseases. 2) not felt in the short term. New treatments that might have otherwise been developed would not have have made a difference during Trump's term.

Remember when Biden cancelled the border wall then two years later his own party begged him to restart it again? I bet life was a breeze not having to pay attention back then.

Remember when Trump put kids in cages.

Vance says in an interview that America could put boots on the ground in Ukraine if Putin doesn’t negotiate in good faith. And also impose further sanctions. Now that is out of left field.

https://www.cnn.com/2025/02/14/politics/jd-vance-us-troops-russia-ukraine-intl-hnk?cid=ios_app

Vance had also said Trump would never pardon 1/6 criminals who'd committed violent crimes. What he says is meaningless.

Unequivocal corruption:

Order to drop New York Mayor Adams’ case roils Justice Department as high-ranking officials resign

NEW YORK (AP) — Manhattan’s top federal prosecutor, Danielle Sassoon, and five high-ranking Justice Department officials resigned Thursday after she refused an order to drop corruption charges against New York City Mayor Eric Adams — a stunning escalation in a dayslong standoff over the Trump administration prioritizing political aims over criminal culpability.

For years, Trumpists falsely accused the DOJ of being politicized, to provide cover for Trump's criminal behavior. Now they're overtly politicizing it.

Important and damning info regarding the debt from DOGE. The debt spiral might not be able to be stopped. (It’s nice to see some transparency as opposed to the opaque secrecy the usual suspects prefer and defend.)

The debt spiral won't be stopped until we address entitlements. Don't you agree?

Depends on the entitlement. I think out-of-control and unnecessary spending is the main culprit.

Medicare and Medicaid are major drivers of the debt, would you agree?

That would be true of all borrowing and spending. But it appears the debt to GDP ratio was falling in the decades following the enacting Medicare, so I suppose there are far greater drivers of the debt.

For years, Trumpists falsely accused the DOJ of being politicized, to provide cover for Trump's criminal behavior. Now they're overtly politicizing it — Relativist

Never! Who would have thought?

The uncontroversial fact is that the deficit reflects spending more than is taken in. Therefore it can be lowered by decreasing spending, increasing revenues, or both.

2024 spending was $6.9 Trillion; revenues: $4.9 Trillion (deficit: $2 Trillion)

Spending breakdown:

24% Health Insurance (Medicare,Medicaid, CHIP, ACA)
21% Social Security
13% Defense
13% Interest on national debt
8% Federal pensions (govmt & military)
7% Economic security programs (Earned income tax credit, child tax credit, SNAP, SSI)
5% Education
2% Transportation
1% Natural resources & Agriculture
1% Science & Medical research
1% Law enforcement
1% International (embassies/consulates, humanitarian aid)
5% All other

Source

Every year's deficit is added to the national debt. Offset by projected decreases in interest rates.

Decreasing domestic spending will be contactionary (less money going into the economy; lower GDP; lower revenue)

Decreasing taxes is expansionary (more money going into the economy, higher GDP, partly offsets the lost revenue).

Deporting undocumented workers is contractionary (fewer consumers spendin $), and reduces revenue (primarily social security and medicare). Also will raise prices because of higher cost of labor.

New tarriffs will increase revenue, but raise prices so it will be contractionary).
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There's no easy solutions, because all options entail both negative and positive aspects.

Thanks for the breakdown.

JD Vance schools Europe’s overlords.