Again, thanks! I will need to respond another day...until then, then.

The subject isn't about Katz, it's about on misogyny and the manosphere, and how to oppose Trump's projecting of it...

on misogyny, the manosphere – and why men must oppose Trumpism. — Amity

Me bringing up points that Nietzsche discusses this in verbose style is both on topic and was to back precisely what @unenlightened said...

That you lot want to pretend Nietzsche doesn't belong here is the side track... not me, I know he brings a lot of food for thought to this table...

If you wanna say Nietzsche's a misogynist take it to my thread. Not cry about how he doesn't belong here.

Otherwise, that you can't muster a counter to my thread, declaring Nietzsche as a misogynist, then you're letting my argument stand...

That you lot want to pretend Nietzsche doesn't belong here is the side track... not me, I know he brings a lot of food for thought to this table... — DifferentiatingEgg

He, like Mills, is a little out of date, Nietzsche, more out of tune - on every subject, with any mainstream thought - each formed by a different time and culture.

Thing is, you can't educate men who have gotten their own way, or think they have. Women are hardly the only ones shaping and adapting themselves to fit an image made by someone more powerful: men have been allowing themselves to be defined by nationality, caste, occupation, education and sports franchise since the dawn of civilization. They, too, serve their kings and generals, foremen and CEO's; wear the required uniform, speak the expected passwords... and lose themselves. Unless the men are liberated*, they will continue to oppress women, children and livestock at every opportunity.

* Some men, in all historical periods have managed to liberate themselves and then gone on to speak up in behalf of the women, the slaves, the factory workers, the children and even the animals. They are usually punished for it by the men they try to educate.

"Things aren't perfect, and it's all men's fault!"

Oh please.

Fair point, my father is that style of obstinate so it hits home in a way I should have already realized.

Hehe, well to be fair I don't think OP is declaring "everything wrong in society is man's fault." But rather misogyny and the manosphere is something that's man's fault majority wise. Sure there may be some women counterparts to it but they're not the prime movers.

But rather misogyny and the manosphere is something that's man's fault majority wise. Sure there may be some women counterparts to it but they're not the prime movers. — DifferentiatingEgg

They're secondary game-pieces, deluded by false promises of security, while men, deluded by false promises of autonomy are the primary game pieces. Neither are movers; both are moved. Looking to set one another straight is as futile as blaming one another - these controversies are noting more than devices to keep us - not just men and women, but Christians and Muslims, migrants and natives, blacks and whites, city and country, red and blue, perpetually divided so that we can never take effective action against our common oppressors.

Thus Spoke Zarathustra ... § XI & XV even the philosophy forums is so divided by the new idol that we lack humanity... thanks for that gut check.

I lost my copy decades ago. But, yeah - very little has changed.

I've just watched the video you posted. A speech by the Conservative David Brooks from the ARC convention. A good mix of serious and humour.

It was more than I expected and most welcome to my ears. His story in the final minutes from 13:00 summed up the humanity. The 'radical humanism' where people look at each other and imagine themselves in another's shoes. Basically, it's having empathy and compassion.

Jimmy Carter, whose foundation has worked quietly to eliminate the Guinea worm, a truly disgusting and agonising parasite. They have almost succeeded, and I hear no credit being given to the founder because, who (else) cares about Africa! — unenlightened

Well, I am guilty of ignorance. Or a bad memory. I can't remember hearing about the Guinea worm.
I'm glad you drew attention to the power of philanthropy, even if it acts quietly. It is unfortunate that we don't hear more about this kind of enterprise or give credit to all those concerned.

Being aware of good work and progress brings a sense of balance to all the nastiness and regression.
Thank you. :sparkle: :flower:

If you're waiting for your oppressor to liberate you, don't hold your breath.

Rather, as Paulo Freire explains, it is the oppressed who must liberate themselves and the oppressor from their toxic relationship. This is because the oppressed are motivated to understand and transcend the social order. The oppressor will always appeal to the authorities and mistake the social order for the moral order, the natural order, the unchangeable, necessary order.

as Paulo Freire explains, — unenlightened

A name I recognised but who I hadn't explored. I was going to ask for the source - and I would love to hear more from you - however, I found this:
https://envs.ucsc.edu/internships/internship-readings/freire-pedagogy-of-the-oppressed.pdf

The 30th Anniversary edition of Freire's Pedagogy of the Oppressed. - pdf 181 pages.
I've just read the personal and illuminating Introduction by Donaldo Macedo pp 9-24.
So engaging. So far, so fascinated...

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it is the oppressed who must liberate themselves and the oppressor from their toxic relationship. This is because the oppressed are motivated to understand and transcend the social order. The oppressor will always appeal to the authorities and mistake the social order for the moral order, the natural order, the unchangeable, necessary order — unenlightened

I understand this up to a point but have questions. How can the oppressed liberate the oppressor?
Yes, they may well be motivated to understand but not all will have this motivation or capacity or access - to transcend the social order or class system.
The oppressor need not always appeal to the authorities but their own will and power.
So many different kinds of 'order'...social, moral, natural, necessary. Does it mean the oppressors cling to the status quo of e.g. religion as being the order of the day and should not be changed? But yet, oppressors can be the ones who rebelled against the prevailing world order.
Who is being identified as the 'oppressed' and the 'oppressor'?
Not all oppressed people have the same experiences or similar opportunities to be 'free'.


From wiki:

Pedagogy of the Oppressed is Freire's attempt to help the oppressed fight back to regain their lost humanity and achieve full humanization. Freire outlines steps with which the oppressed can regain their humanity, starting with acquiring knowledge about the concept of humanization itself.

It is easy for the oppressed to fight their oppressors, only to become the opposites of what they currently are. In other words, this just makes them the oppressors and starts the cycle all over again. To be fully human again, they must identify the oppressors. They must identify them and work together to seek liberation.

The next step in liberation is to understand what the goal of the oppressors is. Oppressors are purely materialistic. They see humans as objects and by suppressing individuals, they can own these humans. While they may not be consciously putting down the oppressed, they value ownership over humanity, essentially dehumanizing themselves. This is important to realize, as the goal of the oppressed is to not only gain power. It is to allow all individuals to become fully human so that no oppression can exist. — Wiki - Pedagogy of the Oppressed

How do you map all of this onto what is happening now? How does it apply?
How realistic is it to expect such from those oppressed? Or who are simply in opposition to a new stronger power adversely affecting their lives? How can they change things around?

This is because the oppressed are motivated to understand and transcend the social order. — unenlightened

Hardly ever, if history is anything to go by. The masses generally support the status quo: the oppressed are loud in their defence of the social order and take it for the moral order, the natural order, the unchangeable, necessary order. That's exactly where all discussions of capitalism, vegetarianism and American-style democracy very quickly go. The most oppressed only ever revolt under the leadership of an unoppressed elite - that is, middle-class intellectuals who had the luxury of an education, the leisure for reflection and the freedom to speak. But without the education, reflection and deliberation, the revolting oppressed, fuelled by anger and heedless of consequence, turn into oppressors - or monsters.

How we liberate one another, oppressed and oppressor, and find our humanity, is through the spirit level. Essentially, organizing society horizontally rather then vertically. In practical terms, this is what a properly functioning democracy would accomplish in two or three generations. Which is why oppressors and aspiring oppressors invariably corrupt democratic systems.

How we liberate one another, oppressed and oppressor, and find our humanity, is through the spirit level. — Vera Mont

I don't understand. The state of oppression is exactly a state of inequality, and the solution is exactly to move to a state of more equality. So how does that happen?

A century and a half or so of the women's movement has gotten women the right to own property, the right to vote, the right (in principle) to equal pay. I think it is done by establishing an equality of the oppressed. And from there the education of the oppressor can begin.

How do you map all of this onto what is happening now? How does it apply? — Amity

What is happening now is the collapse of capitalist democracy. There is a transfer of power from democratically elected politicians to the oligarchs. Everyone who is not an oligarch is oppressed, including politicians. I will also include the rest of the natural world.

So we have been playing monopoly for a century or so, and now we can see who has won. So that game is over, and we can ignore the winners counting their money and gloating, and get on with our spirited levelling without them. It's a better game, and lasts longer. Start here, or wherever you may happen to be.

The state of oppression is exactly a state of inequality, and the solution is exactly to move to a state of more equality. So how does that happen? — unenlightened

That movement happened while democracy functioned reasonably well. After a shake-up of the class structure and economy via war and technological change, redistributed some wealth and expanded education and woke the ex-soldiers and female factory workers to their own potential. Even so, it was a slow, hard climb.

I think it is done by establishing an equality of the oppressed. — unenlightened

Only, that is a long way from done, anywhere, and even while progress seemed to be speeding up, the anti-democratic factions were busy undermining it and corrupting the means of governance.

So we have been playing monopoly for a century or so, and now we can see who has won. So that game is over, and we can ignore the winners counting their money and gloating, and get on with our spirited levelling without them. — unenlightened

Make that 6 millennia and it's not exactly over. Those who have won will not let anybody else ignore them or form coalitions against their control. The worst part is, they've always been able to persuade plebes to do their oppressing of other plebes.
I appreciate the efforts of individuals, groups and organizations that work toward mitigating the fallout, adapting their lifestyle and forming supportive communities or preparing the survivors for a changed world. I can't fight down the conviction that it's too little, far too late. But I'll certainly check out your link, which looks very positive.

Those who have won will not let anybody else ignore them or form coalitions against their control. The worst part is, they've always been able to persuade plebes to do their oppressing of other plebes. — Vera Mont

Divide and rule is always the rule, and solidarity is the only resistance, but solidarity can become an oppression of its own. So education, so humble teachers always learning, so democracy in education.

I have no final solutions, I'm just describing what I think I see. And yeah, history is long, and never finished.

Everything passes, everything changes,
Just do what you think you should do;
And some day baby, who knows, maybe
I'll come and be crying to you.

To Ramona - Bob Dylan.

I have no final solutions, I'm just describing what I think I see. And yeah, history is long, and never finished. — unenlightened

This is a truism, not a truth. We're still seeing suns that no longer exist and not seeing planets that once flourished.
I take your meaning and laud your principles; it's the long term I don't believe in.

So we have been playing monopoly for a century or so, and now we can see who has won. So that game is over, and we can ignore the winners counting their money and gloating, and get on with our spirited levelling without them. It's a better game, and lasts longer. Start here, or wherever you may happen to be. — unenlightened

Thank you for this and the link. Positive and inspiring.
Yes, we are all in this game of life, so we must try to keep our spirits from falling to the low level people would push us. Deep, deep, down.

It's natural to go through ups and downs. Experience and knowledge of how to cope with physical and mental challenges can help to balance spirits. To rise from the depths, stay afloat, find our tranquil waters and space to breathe. Sharing thoughts, like this. Here. Right now.

But sometimes, we are our own worst enemy. We dwell in the dark spots of our mind. The inner voice of the 'devil' giving us a hard time. Be good to yourself, first and foremost.

it's the long term I don't believe in. — Vera Mont

What do you mean by that? And what does it mean for the way you feel and live your life now?

What do you mean by that? And what does it mean for the way you feel and live your life now? — Amity

Things end. Stars implode; species go extinct, civilizations collapse; biological entities die. Like every story, the history of the human race has a natural ending. I know that my personal death is not far off and believe that one or more of those other endings is also inevitable - I'm hoping it's collapse of this civilization, rather than extinction, because that allows me to imagine a new, more positive human story.

The way I live is pretty much the same as it was in optimistic youth: a compromise with modernity and capitalism; trying to keep my footprint small without giving up ordinary comforts; trying to effect change, without giving up my tenuous security. These days, I don't go on futile marches or campaign for losers; I just write books nobody reads.
Thing is, I lived through a full cycle of history: from the wreckage left behind that great global insanity we fondly recall as WWII, through the decades of technological and social progress experienced by fortunate first-worlders, the elation of winning battles in civil rights, reproductive rights, gay rights, workers' rights... only to see it all clawed back, torn down and trampled again. Just as it had been a hundred times before in other civilizations. Meanwhile, we were gobbling up the bounty of this planet, not to improve the lot of all mankind but to enrich a few, and turning it into, not useful manure but toxic waste and debt-bondage.

I saw the dark tunnel opening one spring day in 1976, four years after the first summit in Stockholm on preventing climate change - a very hopeful thing that had been! I was having lunch with colleagues and one of them ordered imported bottled water . Four more years later, not only had none of the promises been kept, but resource extraction, automobile use, industrialization, deforestation and pollution had accelerated sharply. Then the three nations of most concern to me elected the Reagan-Thatcher-Mulroney axis to govern our affairs. It's been downhill since, with very few moguls to slow the descent.

It looks to me like each period of madness in history ends in greater destruction. Is this one big enough to be the last? We can hope not, but I left my faith in humanity in the 20th century.

An example of misogyny is violence against women, which includes domestic violence and, in its most extreme forms, misogynist terrorism and femicide. Misogyny also often operates through sexual harassment, coercion, and psychological techniques aimed at controlling women, and by legally or socially excluding women from full citizenship. In some cases, misogyny rewards women for accepting an inferior status. — Wiki - Misogyny

Sounds like this is very much appearing as a ghostly apparition (not in the sense it doesn't exist, in the sense it is weak and not very effective) in the Western world. This isn't to say someone like Trump doesn't embolden thoughts in those who have them - but if you were to ask any person, and press them, on their views about women, the chances that you'll come to anything close to what's represented in this definition (not going to wade in Manne's nonsense) are not so much low, but rare.

This is why defining things on their outcomes is an extremely bad practice, if we want to change outcomes. Defining things by their intent allows us to illustrate that someone who is, at base, not misogynistic, is, in fact, behaving in a way that perpetuates misogyny without forcing them accept a mind state they literally do not hold.

Probably worth stepping back a bit, taking a breath and realizing we're not in a fucking crisis either. Women have never been more powerful, revered or protected in the West. And we're doing better than anywhere else by far.

It looks to me like each period of madness in history ends in greater destruction. Is this one big enough to be the last? We can hope not, but I left my faith in humanity in the 20th century. — Vera Mont

This strikes me as the exact out-of-perspective thinking that everyone of every age who wants to feel good about themselves would put forward. We are not at any special stage of history, other than the forefront. Our time will be relegated like any other, and a future time will be more important at that time. It strikes me as nonsensical, and panicked. Hence, step back, take a breath - this is not a crisis. It's a point in history. LIke any other. Pretending we're in special circumstances is a really weird move, other than to ensure you don't give up - whcih seems weak to me.

He appointed the first female chief of staff. I think he is sexist, but wants to exploit talent more than he wants to misogynize.

Trump? If so, yes, i'd say so. I think he's far more cynical than bigoted too.

This strikes me as the exact out-of-perspective thinking that everyone of every age who wants to feel good about themselves would put forward. — AmadeusD

Oddly enough, the perspective doesn't make me feel the slightest bit good. Can you cite where I've gone wrong on facts or statistics?

THe entire post is just you going over how you feel. There aren't any facts or statistics that can be quibbled with - which is why I gave a similar response.

doesn't make me feel the slightest bit good. — Vera Mont

You've not understood what I've said. "About themselves" is appended to what you've responded to. And, in this sense, you're continuing the trend it seems by somehow saying you don't feel good about... not feeling good. I think we've been here before, Vera.

Seems to me, it is only perspective that can lead to these sorts of rants (not derogatory - anything adequately complete will be a rant in this context). If this were based on 'facts' then your personal feelings wouldn't be relevant. When i speak of perspective here, it's an impetus that says "No, it is not likely that your view of your own era is accurate, historically. Nor could it be". And so having a bit of perspective may well change your feelings regardless of "the facts and statistics" which are not here, anyway. You claim both to live as a optimistic youth, but carry an abysmal view of the world in whcih you live, which has only "gone downhill" for fifty years. *shrug* i guess.

Things end. Stars implode; species go extinct, civilizations collapse; biological entities die. Like every story, the history of the human race has a natural ending. I know that my personal death is not far off and believe that one or more of those other endings is also inevitable - I'm hoping it's collapse of this civilization, rather than extinction, because that allows me to imagine a new, more positive human story. — Vera Mont

Yes, things end but things also start. While the human race may well die at some point, we must live in the present. It all seems negative right now because of the dramatic changes starting with the election of Trump and gang in America. The knock-on effects not only in USA but world-wide.

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The way I live is pretty much the same as it was in optimistic youth: a compromise with modernity and capitalism; trying to keep my footprint small without giving up ordinary comforts; trying to effect change, without giving up my tenuous security. These days, I don't go on futile marches or campaign for losers; I just write books nobody reads. — Vera Mont

It is clear that you care for people, animals, the environment and the effects of power. And more.
While marches may seem futile, they and campaigns are not about losing. They are about fighting for justice and a way to come together - to show we are not alone.

Just as reading or writing a book can help us imagine other places and people. To connect.
I know you write fiction. I've enjoyed reading your short stories in TPF Literary Activity.
I know you write in areas of philosophy, in an engaging manner, with real world experience.
I know you write novels - I haven't read any, as yet.
I'm not sure how autobiographical or biographical they are.

Writing a novel is an accomplishment in itself. I doubt I will ever do that. However, I write here.
It helps to clarify my thoughts by releasing them...hither and thither.
It exercises my brain and sometimes it even produces something of value.
Writing is not always going to be read.
There will be a Philosophy Writing Challenge, starting June 1st:
https://thephilosophyforum.com/discussion/15749/philosophy-writing-challenge-june-2025-announcement/p1

I hope to contribute something. Already, I'm being challenged. Reining in a multitude of ideas.
So, this thread is a bit of a distraction from the direction I was taking. But necessary.

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Thing is, I lived through a full cycle of history: from the wreckage left behind that great global insanity we fondly recall as WWII, through the decades of technological and social progress experienced by fortunate first-worlders, the elation of winning battles in civil rights, reproductive rights, gay rights, workers' rights... only to see it all clawed back, torn down and trampled again. Just as it had been a hundred times before in other civilizations. Meanwhile, we were gobbling up the bounty of this planet, not to improve the lot of all mankind but to enrich a few, and turning it into, not useful manure but toxic waste and debt-bondage. — Vera Mont

This powerful paragraph is a wonderful telling of your story, in the context of a changing world. Subjective and objective, as a participant and observer. A package of decades, passing.

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I saw the dark tunnel opening one spring day in 1976, four years after the first summit in Stockholm on preventing climate change - a very hopeful thing that had been! I was having lunch with colleagues and one of them ordered imported bottled water . Four more years later, not only had none of the promises been kept, but resource extraction, automobile use, industrialization, deforestation and pollution had accelerated sharply. Then the three nations of most concern to me elected the Reagan-Thatcher-Mulroney axis to govern our affairs. It's been downhill since, with very few moguls to slow the descent. — Vera Mont

This thing about bottled water. I've been thinking about water as a resource more vital than any mineral.
I use water from the tap. In Scotland, so far, it is safe, refreshing and free.
Recently, I read of the increase in - of all things, constipation in England's children.
I can't help thinking that this is related not only to poor dietary choice, lack of exercise but insufficient fluid intake. In England and Wales, people have to pay for water at point of use. Water is metered.

You talk of the terrible Thatcher. One instance of her policies - Water and Sewage Privatisation.

The Conservative government of the day had originally proposed water privatisation in 1984 and again in 1986, but strong public feeling against the proposals led to plans being shelved to prevent the issue influencing the 1987 general election. Having won the election, the privatisation plan was "resurrected and implemented rapidly".

England and Wales became the only countries in the world to have a fully privatised water and sewage disposal system. In Scotland and Northern Ireland, water and sewerage services remained in public ownership. Since 2001, Dŵr Cymru Welsh Water... has operated as a single-purpose, not-for-profit company with no shareholders, "run solely for the benefit of customers". According to The Independent, the English WSCs are now mostly owned "by private equity firms with controversial tax-avoidance strategies". Public opinion polling carried out in 2017 indicated that 83% of the British public favoured renationalisation of all water services. — Wiki - Water Privatisation

I'm not sure of the current situation but, here's only a smidgeon of the sewage spills:

Across England, last year was the worst for sewage spills since records began. Sewage was discharged for a record 3.6million hours across England in 2023 – more than double the previous year. South West Water ranked second highest among all water companies for sewage spills, with an average of 43.4 sewage spills per storm overflow, trailing only behind United Utilities with 45.4 spills. — Plymouth Herald

Of course, this is nothing compared to other countries who have little to no access to clean water.
Millions don't have the basics and rely on charity and aid. Aid for toilets and good hygiene to prevent diseases.

This kind of humanitarian aid is being shut down by Trump. More here:

Trump posted on his Truth Social page on Friday that USAID's spending "IS TOTALLY UNEXPLAINABLE... CLOSE IT DOWN!"

Elon Musk, the tech billionaire working on the White House's effort to shrink the federal government, has previously claimed that the aid agency is "a criminal organization" and that Trump has agreed to "shut it down".

Neither Trump or Musk provided clear evidence to support their claims, and the president's effort to shutter the agency is expected to face legal challenges. — BBC - USAID - Why Trump wants to end it

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It looks to me like each period of madness in history ends in greater destruction. Is this one big enough to be the last? We can hope not, but I left my faith in humanity in the 20th century. — Vera Mont

It is a pity that you have lost faith in humanity. But understandable. You are perceptive. Noting with keen eyes: the dark tunnel opening one spring day in 1976,.

This thread was/is an attempt to see, or even shed, some light. To counteract the darkness.
To lift the lid, to examine and understand the problems being faced right now. How to proceed.

I started with only one article as an example of activism. There are more situations to be discussed.
Haven't yet touched on the racism of the white supremacist, fascism of Trump and his thugs.
At this moment, using their power to overturn decades of slow and uncertain progress.

The question is how best to push back.
I'd be interested to hear the effects of this on others, perhaps activists like @180 Proof?
What's going on?

Earlier I posted a YouTube version of Joan Baez singing 'We Shall Overcome'.
It is a powerful song but the setting here was vanilla. A young white audience barely mouthing the words.

As part of the Civil Rights Movement it is only one among many protest songs.
I've been looking for a better version. Or any empowering song. @180 Proof - any ideas?

So far, I've got this:
Joan Baez performs "We Shall Overcome" at the March on Washington



The first steps are the hardest...
The Civil Rights Movement Timeline, 1905-1975

https://www.blackpast.org/civil-rights-movement-timeline/

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What's Going On - Marvin Gaye

THe entire post is just you going over how you feel. There aren't any facts or statistics that can be quibbled with - which is why I gave a similar response. — AmadeusD

No. It is not only about feelings but a welcome personal insight. No facts or statistics necessary.

To backtrack, Vera was responding to my question:

it's the long term I don't believe in.
— Vera Mont

What do you mean by that? And what does it mean for the way you feel and live your life now? — Amity

Seems to me, it is only perspective that can lead to these sorts of rants (not derogatory - anything adequately complete will be a rant in this context). If this were based on 'facts' then your personal feelings wouldn't be relevant. When i speak of perspective here, it's an impetus that says "No, it is not likely that your view of your own era is accurate, historically. Nor could it be" — AmadeusD

Personal feelings are relevant when giving a perspective on the effects of critical moments. There is a meeting of subjective experience and objective observations.
It is as accurate as memory allows and history shows. It relates to the present and future.

It is derogatory to suggest this is a 'rant'. Not to mention condescending in tone.

I think we've been here before, Vera. — AmadeusD

So what, if this has been discussed before. It is new to this thread and new readers.
It bears repeating.

And so having a bit of perspective may well change your feelings regardless of "the facts and statistics" which are not here, anyway. You claim both to live as a optimistic youth, but carry an abysmal view of the world in whcih you live, which has only "gone downhill" for fifty years. *shrug* i guess. — AmadeusD

Vera's response and current perspective is understandable. The feelings are understandable. The thoughts and writing are understandable. There is an honest sharing and wisdom to be tapped. It requires careful listening and questioning. It is of value. I share much of her concern.
Which is why I'm here.

This strikes me as the exact out-of-perspective thinking that everyone of every age who wants to feel good about themselves would put forward. We are not at any special stage of history, other than the forefront. Our time will be relegated like any other, and a future time will be more important at that time. It strikes me as nonsensical, and panicked. Hence, step back, take a breath - this is not a crisis. It's a point in history. LIke any other. Pretending we're in special circumstances is a really weird move, other than to ensure you don't give up - whcih seems weak to me. — AmadeusD

I don't understand how you reach your conclusions as bolded. It doesn't make sense to me.
This is a point in history but not like any other.
There has been a significant change in circumstances. As discussed here and elsewhere.
One example: https://thephilosophyforum.com/discussion/15754/the-musk-plutocracy/p1

Nobody is pretending anything. This is a crisis. If you don't recognise that, then so be it.

Probably worth stepping back a bit, taking a breath and realizing we're not in a fucking crisis either. Women have never been more powerful, revered or protected in the West. And we're doing better than anywhere else by far. — AmadeusD

Well, like most, we see what we want to see. Not what we need to see. Or know what and where to look for an informed and broader view. That takes will, time and energy we don't all have.
It could be worthwhile to start a discussion on misogyny, to explore its meaning, statistics and evidence. Locally, internationally and globally. But that is more than I am prepared to do, right now.

Misogyny is only part of Trump's regressive destruction of rights and justice systems.
Happening right now.
Full throttle.
Without a breath.
It is not a time to step back. But yes, to take a deep breath and step up. In whatever way we can.

Also, how likely is it that, not only men, but people generally are willing to stand up against the powerful?
— Amity

Unlikely.

How many of us are frustrated in our lack of power, our vulnerability to imposed, dramatic change?

Almost everyone I speak with. — fdrake

I didn't respond to this part of your post. Perhaps because I agreed.
Friends I speak with share feelings of frustration and powerlessness. And shrug. What can be done?
In this county, we seldom need to stand up against the powerful.

But it can be done to great effect, even if it takes its toll.
What comes to mind is the Poll Tax Protest.
Against Thatcher.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poll_tax_riots

That seems like a lifetime ago. And now such a thing is unlikely to happen. Given the criminalisation of protest. I've had a quick look and found this downloadable article, as yet unread but seems pertinent:

The Effects of Criminalisation on Activists: The Case of the NoTAP Environmental Movement

Does criminalisation have “chilling effects” on activists? If so, which are the criminalisation phases or strategies that discourage activists to act freely and in exercise of their human rights?

This article investigates the chilling effects of criminalisation beyond the phases or strategies of police repression, labelling/stigmatisation, and surveillance, which have been addressed in the relevant multi-disciplinary literature thus far.

Using the case study of the criminalised NoTAP environmental movement opposing a pipeline megaproject in the Italian southeastern Puglia region, this article shows the importance of investigating chilling effects on activists who have had experiences with the criminal justice system and with punitive measures outside the criminal law, such as administrative fines.

It ends with an invitation for activist criminologists to contribute more substantially to this area of research, and to support activists throughout the “criminalisation cycle” - and through the most daunting phases of criminalisation, in particular. — Springer - The Effects of Criminalisation on Activists

It seems easy to become a criminal in USA and to be imprisoned for decades. For small offences.
The exceptions, of course, are those in power. Big offences overlooked. Even rewarded as in Trump.

“A lot of the negative consequences of getting a felony [conviction] really aren’t going to apply to Trump because of his wealth and status,” Petrigh says.

Normally, a felony conviction is a big deal, he says. It can prevent individuals from receiving government assistance like public housing and can impact job and loan applications. But, “none of those things are going to affect Donald Trump, because his wealth isolates him from those consequences,” Petrigh says. Even Trump’s right to vote will likely not be impacted, he notes: Florida, where Trump is a resident, prevents felons from voting. — Boston University - Trump Convicted Felon - Does that mean anything?

And now, of course, he an outlaw is above the law. Laws he makes for himself and his oligarch thugs.

Private prisons are big business. Booming in America. So, motivation to increase cages. And build more.
It is understandable that people are wary of protesting. Even holding an opposing point of view is dangerous. Even looking the wrong way at someone; having the wrong look or colour can land you in trouble. Big time. For the ethnic minorities. For being homeless through no fault of your own.

And when protests do happen, we are not always told of them. Or shown the pictures...
A photograph of a moment in time can be a powerful message.
Let's make an album! Black and white. Or colour...static or moving. Singing...
Where are the creatives? To move away from the medieval. To progress.
A 'coalition of the willing'...not just for the politicians.