Why? How? — tim wood

Because he is pro-Israel, pro-bitcoin, and pro-Tesla. Because he deports those who come here on visas and spit in the face of the country that welcomes in them. I like him because he's serious about cutting waste and challenges unaccountable corrupt organizations. I like that he's serious about border security, unlike the Democrats. I like he doesn't try to "both sides" the current Israel-Palestine war. He can actually recognize evil, which is rare in the US, and in the world, today.

He correctly recognizes that the main maladies facing the nation are lawlessness, social and moral confusion, and Islam.

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You really know nothing about the man, do you. — tim wood

You obsess over Trump. I obsess over the anti-American, anti-Israeli hate mobs destroying our universities, indoctrinating our youth, and spreading Jew-hate and violence across the Western world.

If 1200 of your people were massacred a few years ago and much of the world cheered or excused it as "resistance" your perspective would be different.

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Being pro-Israel automatically disqualifies anyone from having any opinion on anything whatsoever.

This I get. But what does Trump have to do with it? As to Palestinians, what do you suppose - or maybe you know - what the average Palestinian thinks about the last few years? — tim wood

Trump is the greatest friend Israel has ever had in the Presidency and has consistently labeled Hamas and its supporters as wicked.

Those who understand the deliberate murder of innocent civilians as "resistance" or as being justified in some sense are disqualified from further opinions. Their views place them outside of civilization.

Those who understand the deliberate murder of innocent civilians as "resistance" or as being justified in some sense are disqualified from further opinions. Their views place them outside of civilization. — BitconnectCarlos

That would put Israel outside of civilization?

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No, Israel targets terrorists who embed themselves in civilian populations. These terrorists often do not wear uniforms. It is not the deliberate murder of innocents. If Israel deliberately murdered innocents we'd see a lot more dead.

A-ha. So Israel cannot see these terrorists - they don't wear uniforms - and therefore just starts murdering civilians in the presupposition that some of them must be terrorists.

Got it.

No there's a target/terrorist in mind with these strikes. A hospital becomes a legitimate target if it's being used for military purposes.

No there's a target/terrorist in mind with these strikes. — BitconnectCarlos

Oh, I'm sure they have all sorts of things in mind. But you just said yourself they have no clue where the terrorists are. They blend in with the population and don't wear uniforms.

But you just said yourself they have no clue where the terrorists are. — Tzeentch

I didn't say that. Israeli intel can still locate and target them even if they aren't in uniform.

Israeli intel can still locate and target them even if they aren't in uniform. — BitconnectCarlos

Yes, they seem to have conceived a most genius method: look where groups of civilians are, and assume some among them must be terrorists.

You write as if you work in an IDF command center. :roll:

How would you know the breakdown between innocent civilian and plain clothed terrorist in a group in Gaza?

You write as if you work in an IDF command center. — BitconnectCarlos

No, I just tuned in to their Twitter feed.

Now is the time act, let’s see if Trump will act to prevent a genocide when he has been given full warning. If he fails to act, he will have blood on his hands.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-05-15/un-aid-chief-urges-security-council-to-prevent-genocide-in-gaza/105293790

The US already has blood on its hands, and has for decades. Unwavering support for its genocidal pet monkey Israel has been the gold standard of US Middle-East policy since the death of JFK.

If Trump manages to break that 70 year old trend, it would be nothing short of a miracle.

Surely, the US has had blood on its hands since its very inception. All countries have blood on their hands. Perhaps all countries are just tainted to their essence like some version of original sin.

It will be interesting to see if Trump is ok with this amount of blood on his hands. I doubt he expected that he would have to play a role in two genocidal wars when he decided to run again.

Now that the genocide is in full flow and there is an acute crisis in which 14,000 babies could die in the next 48 hours*. Will Donald Trump act, or turn his back on them. Again he has been warned, he will not be able to claim he did not know about it. As there is an intense international effort underway today to get the required aid into Gaza. It is sitting on the border and Tom Fletcher is making every effort to get the trucks in today.

*according to the UN aid chief, Tom Fletcher.

Now that the genocide is in full flow and there is an acute crisis in which 14,000 babies could die in the next 48 hours*. Will Donald Trump act, or turn his back on them. Again he has been warned, he will not be able to claim he did not know about it. As there is an intense international effort underway today to get the required aid into Gaza. It is sitting on the border and Tom Fletcher is making every effort to get the trucks in today. — Punshhh

He's apparently "concerned" about the humanitarian situation and is demanding Bibi do more on aid. So essentially the Biden approach.

In other news:

Iran's Khamenei doubts US nuclear talks will lead to agreement

Netanyahu says Israel will control all of Gaza when offensive ends

Implementation of Trump’s Gaza relocation plan is condition for ending war

US intel suggests Israel preparing strike on Iran's nuclear facilities, CNN reports.

Of course I'm not ruling out the possibility of pressure campaigns being done on all sides from all parties on the nuclear deal talks but these past 24 hours haven't been very reassuring.

*according to the UN aid chief, Tom Fletcher. — Punshhh

The UN retracted its latest blood libel against the Jewish state.

Not that it matters, as the news has already spread like wildfire. Since when has truth mattered to the "pro-Palestine" movement? Lies serve a purpose. Spout enough of them and you're unstoppable.

What will be next? Israelis drinking the blood of Palestinian children? Harvesting their organs to use for rituals? Possibilities are endless.

When even Piers Morgan changes his tune... :chin:

@ssu told you so but since you're the only one capable of changing his mind I won't bother tagging anyone else. I'm sure you already shifted your position in the meantime but I've been ignoring this thread in favour of my blood pressure so have no clue where the discussion stands.

I've been ignoring this thread in favour of my blood pressure so have no clue where the discussion stands. — Benkei

In that the worst outcomes will come true ...just not instantly, but with time. So much time that the common man (or voter) forgets the issue and the media loses interest.

Now the US is actively assisting in the deportation of Palestinians.

(NBC News) The Trump administration is working on a plan to permanently relocate up to 1 million Palestinians from the Gaza Strip to Libya, five people with knowledge of the effort told NBC News.

The plan is under serious enough consideration that the administration has discussed it with Libya’s leadership, two people with direct knowledge of the plans and a former U.S. official said.

In exchange for the resettling of Palestinians, the administration would potentially release to Libya billions of dollars of funds that the U.S. froze more than a decade ago, those three people said.

No final agreement has been reached, and Israel has been kept informed of the administration’s discussions, the same three sources said.

And well, if for some reason my country is the happiest country on Earth (which I find always amusing), Israel is the fifth happiest country. I assume this didn't include the Palestinian territories. But they are more happy than you are in your country. So there we are.

World Happiness Report -rankings 2024:

1 Finland 7.741
2 Denmark 7.583
3 Iceland 7.525
4 Sweden 7.344
5 Israel 7.341
6 Netherlands 7.319

So 14,000 Palestinian babies did not die in the past 48 hrs. Two Israeli embassy aides were shot and killed. Blood libels and demonization have consequences.

Three major groups could have done it: the Far right, the far left, and the Islamists. The culprit is from the far left—horseshoe theory at its finest.

And it seems that at least in this case this leftist terrorist has taken the same strategy that far-right terrorists use: to be lone actors and not be linked to any group, as that then would wake up the vast security apparatus of the US. I agree with the horseshoe theory, even if let's say that many in the alt-right have become far more positive about Israel, there are still those with the old traditions for anti-semitism.

Rodriguez was associated with the Party for Socialism and Liberation, a far-left group that regularly posts anti-Israel rhetoric on social media. The group claims on social media that Rodriguez was not a member, and his association with it ended in 2017.

Yes, he surely was linked to specific groups.

This is "globalize the intifada" in action.

I haven't been following this thread too closely, but like everyone, am appalled by the bloodshed and suffering of the Palestinians we see on news bulletins every day. This morning, there was a report that Hamas had agreed to release 10 more hostages in return for a 70-day ceasefire - quickly denied by Israel and the US negotiator Witkoff.

So the question I have is, why isn't Hamas releasing the remaining live hostages, and returning the remains of the others? What advantage do they hold by retaining them in captivity? If they were to release them, wouldn't that pressure Israel to relent?

I doubt it would slow down the ethnic cleansing at all and Netanyahu would claim the credit for getting them released. The reality is that Israel can’t stop here, they’ve passed the point of no return. They will only now feel secure when every Palestinian is removed from Israel and they have surrounded themselves with heavily armed buffer zones.

The only alternative is the intervention of a large scale international peace keeping force. But the international community is not stepping forward.