Seems far so far, but what then is the role of consciousness? Couldn't all of this be done without conciousness? Or would it be impossible? — Daniel Sjöstedt
Is your view that there is something immaterial about consciousness?
Or that there is at least something about it that does not follow the classical laws of mechanics? — Daniel Sjöstedt
Are we assuming everything reduces to electron/quark interactions? — JupiterJess
Why would it be impossible to speak about consciousness if it were an epiphenomena? — Daniel Sjöstedt
Yes. — Daniel Sjöstedt
Free will is synonymous to freedom of intentions. These intentions are usually categorized as good and bad intentions. We may not always have freedom of choices if the choices are restricted, nor know the outcome ahead of time, but we can intend for a good or bad outcome.I don't know what is Free Will. I do know that as humans, we makes choices as to the direction of some action, by virtue of will. Choices are not free. They are constrained, and outcomes are always unknown. We are trying to navigate. — Rich
Sorry for any confusion; English is not my first language.
The laws I am talking about are the laws that determine the motion of bodies in the universe. — Daniel Sjöstedt
Are we assuming everything reduces to electron/quark interactions?
— JupiterJess
Yes. — Daniel Sjöstedt
Free will is synonymous to freedom of intentions. These intentions are usually categorized as good and bad intentions. We may not always have freedom of choices if the choices are restricted, nor know the outcome ahead of time, but we can intend for a good or bad outcome. — Samuel Lacrampe
In any case, I have no idea what the Laws of Nature might be. It is far more mysterious than consciousness, mind, or quantum potential. — Rich
Laws of nature are simply certain regularities in nature. Nature contains various stuff, and just as there are differences in nature, there are also regularities (commonalities, symmetries or repeated features). For example, the law of gravity is the regularity with which massive bodies attract each other in a specific way. These regularities may be difficult or impossible to visualize but they can be expressed mathematically. — litewave
If I unintentionally saved a person's life, say by accidentally bumping into them, then I shouldn't be praised for it. — Samuel Lacrampe
But how do you address Laplace's notion - that if you knew the facts about every atom you could predict the future of the universe. — Daniel Sjöstedt
Does the "planning" determine your action, or is the "planning" already determined? If the conscious planning is already determined, is it then merely a way of understanding your actions and communicating them to others? — Daniel Sjöstedt
can't help but think of Nietzschean psychology - "I" am not the originator of my thoughts, my thoughts come on their own terms. That which influences my actions is precisely that which is the most powerful. The most powerful thoughts are those which come to my attention and direct my action. It is not that I "choose" to do some action but rather a thought commands me to do something and I obey it - willing is the combination of command and obey. — darthbarracuda
The problem is there is not one shred of evidence to support such a view other than faith. Such a belief is exactly equivalent to Calvinism and other fated religions. — Rich
Determinism on the whole is destroyed by quantum physics. — Rich
This convoluted explanation of how the human mind makes choices wreaks with religious flavor and dogma. — Rich
Why is the human brain being made into a computer is the critical question? — Rich
No, this is wrong. Are you seriously telling me Nietzsche advocated his metaphysical scheme based on faith?! — darthbarracuda
No, this is also wrong. Quantum mechanics is difficult to predict but that does not make it necessarily indeterminate. — darthbarracuda
The same could be said about libertarian free will, which is overwhelmingly argued for by religious believers. — darthbarracuda
That, and the representational theory of mind, have been blown out of the water by phenomenology and contemporary cognitive science. — darthbarracuda
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