Here's a suggestion, rest of the world: instead of trying to master manipulating, controlling and dominating, try to master mutually respectfully co-existing for a change. — WISDOMfromPO-MO
I am sure that this makes me a lone wolf, but I want out of the tunnel. — WISDOMfromPO-MO
Here's a suggestion, rest of the world: instead of trying to master manipulating, controlling and dominating, try to master mutually respectfully co-existing for a change. — WISDOMfromPO-MO
It has always been, since the dawn of time, a matter of some trying to dominate others because that is what that they are good at. The Mongols a good case study. Nowadays it is different. If people want to retain freedom to choose they have to be aware of how it is being continually taken away, mostly via a collaboration between big industry and the government they control. — Rich
Well with all due respect to one who cannot read a few paragraphs of another without becoming angry... — unenlightened
I think that is what you are suggesting, that we must master our own being so as to end conflict? — unenlightened
But this simply recreates the conflict internally; the master is angry at his own anger and another's anger, and so anger is sustained in him even as he fights it. — unenlightened
The first step is for thought to understand completely that it cannot solve this problem, because itis the problem. And if that is clearly and completely understood, then there is an end. Thought stops. And it is the silence that follows that is the solution. But one must be very clear that this silence cannot be reached by any kind of effort or mastery; it cannot be practiced or achieved. All one can do by way of approach is to seek to understand the limits of thought and will. — unenlightened
I am suggesting that we all cooperate, respect one another, respect non-human life, and respect the Earth as the home of all life. — WISDOMfromPO-MO
A complete rupture and departure from the worldviews that have created and sustained modern business and science might be a no-brainer — WISDOMfromPO-MO
a wise person does not respond to climate change by ignoring or denying science and praising the virtues of unregulated business, nor by vilifying business and being condescending towards common people while praising science as the breathtakingly amazing arbiter of safety, longevity, justice, etc. A wise person responds to climate change by recognizing that it is the creation of both business and science and looking for ways to act outside of business and science. A complete rupture and departure from the worldviews that have created and sustained modern business and science might be a no-brainer once people start looking outside of them. — WISDOMfromPO-MO
A wise person responds to climate change by recognizing that it is the creation of both business and science and looking for ways to act outside of business and science — WISDOMfromPO-MO
People are the way they are as a result of their genetics and upbringing. To change that would mean that you'd need to manipulate them (their genes and upbringing). — Harry Hindu
I change all the time and it had zero to do with my genetics and upbringing. — Rich
The knowledge and experience you use to make your choices are based on past choices and outcomes — CasKev
The 'I' you speak of only exists because your parents had sex. The desire you have to add novelty to your life only exists because of the experiences that have led you to that point, and your biological instinct to love and create. — CasKev
This is so typical of the socialist/liberal logic of making oneself feel good about themselves by promoting the idea, "can't we all just get along?", "can't we just be nicer and more respectful to each other?". Sure, those are great ideas, but all I see are these ideas without any means of getting there. Is it because we already know how to get there but realize that the means would be the manipulation of others, which is what you all are saying you want to depart from? Wouldn't you need to start determining who gets born and how children are raised and wouldn't you need a deep state to do that (and it seems that is what we are heading towards)? People are the way they are as a result of their genetics and upbringing. To change that would mean that you'd need to manipulate them (their genes and upbringing). — Harry Hindu
All people have to do is consume less, but industry/government have become very good at marketing consumption. Let's take a look at the sales pitch of the medical device industry: "Take this test, or you will die!". Pretty effective sales pitch especially when the lobbyists have successfully passed laws to help them push their products and drugs.
Maybe environmentalists can take less trips to the environments they are trying to save? There are many ways to look a simple, healthy, interesting life without constantly consuming. — Rich
I said let's break the garage-in-garbage-out cycle — WISDOMfromPO-MO
If we were all wise, or even most of us, there would be no problem. The solution to climate change is well known, and not difficult to implement. But wise people have been turning away from consumer society and promoting sustainable living at least since the sixties. Indeed vilifying and condescending does nothing, but nor does being wise unless wisdom acts to become vegan, stop using fossil fuels, reduce transport by consuming local products, insulate homes, fit solar panels and learn to live without waste.
But all that is straightforward. It is the wisdom that is in short supply. And that is what I am interested in trying to manufacture. — unenlightened
Your genes are driving your novelty seeking behavior. Other people's genes drive familiarity seeking. — Bitter Crank
It's true that is we consume less we will need to produce less, which is fine. The only one hurt will be the profiteers. They'll have to live in billions instead of 10s of billions. The point is, if one is if one is concerned with pollution just consume less. — Rich
Like I said, most of us are just too over-exposed to all this stuff, most of which is way beyond our capacity to control, affect, stop, change...
Once you've become informed, you don't need fresh doses of this stuff. It's like if you eat a healthy diet, there is no need to take vitamin pills. For instance, there is nothing new to say about Marxism; liberalism; "progress"; conservatism; Enlightenment rationalism, autonomy of the individual, rule of law; empiricism/"science"; technology; transhumanism; postmodernism; feminism; queer theory; identity politics; neo-liberalism; "the logic of free markets"; globalization; populism; "democracy" vs. "tyranny"; dualism vs. non-dualism; overconsumption vs. prosperity; Malthus vs. Adam Smith, etc. etc. etc.
It's pretty much all been said. Several times a day it is repeated. Unplug, tune out, turn off (as opposed to Timothy Leary's advice to Turn on, tune in, drop out). — Bitter Crank
There's nothing that says anybody has to accept the way things are and should not do anything to disrupt the order of things. That sounds like fatalism or something else from ancient times. — WISDOMfromPO-MO
things like quietly restoring local economies, quietly restoring the extended family, and quietly restoring local communities and anything else local — WISDOMfromPO-MO
What your really asking here is whether the human condition can be shaped and formed like Playdough. I don't think that is something that can be imposed or forced onto people, only cultivated and nurtured
We need--or at least I personally want--to transcend all of it. — WISDOMfromPO-MO
Here's a suggestion, rest of the world: — WISDOMfromPO-MO
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