• Wayfarer
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    I guess you’re right. Still I’m flummoxed as to why Hamas continues to hold those hostages. I can’t see how they’ll gain from it.
  • Punshhh
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    I know, I guess they are a broken force now. They may have disintegrated as a coherent force. They might be holding on to the remaining hostages as some kind of get out clause.

    The whole situation is inconceivably horrific and intractable. We need the one person who can stop this to act. But for some reason he won’t.
  • neomac
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    More on Israel being doomed due to the Palestinian "genocide, international isolation and, especially, the holy wrath of the Arab world in the name of the Palestinian cause:
    Five of the most prominent Arab sheikhs in Hebron—yes, Hebron, the heart of biblical Judea—just declared that they want to join the Abraham Accords, recognize Israel as the Jewish state and break away from the Palestinian Authority.
    Not as part of some negotiated peace process. Not as part of a “two-state solution.” But as a rejection of the entire Palestinian nationalist cause.

    https://www.jns.org/hebron-arab-leaders-back-joining-abraham-accords/
  • Punshhh
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    Jeremy Bowen, the BBC’s top foreign correspondent who has contacts in Gaza has reported that doctors treating Palestinians in the vicinity of the Israeli feeding stations are giving accounts of the type of injuries they are seeing. They are mainly gunshots to the head, abdomen, women’s breasts and weirdly the buttock. Also numbers of young children shot in the head. The wounds are consistent with high velocity sniper fire. The people shot in the buttock die a horrible death due to feces contamination of the body cavity resulting in sepsis. There is a theory that this is intentional. They don’t have the resources to treat them, they just patch them up.
  • jorndoe
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    The only alternative is the intervention of a large scale international peace keeping force. But the international community is not stepping forward.Punshhh

    As far as I can tell, neither the Palestinians nor the Israelis want something like a UN peacekeeping force. :/ Palestinians give reasons like dignity or whatever, and, apparently, the Israelis just don't want any interference. Meanwhile, Hamas extremists roam, and Netanyahu levels Gaza more or less indiscriminately (which is also extreme), ... Dampening and observing peacekeepers would be great, though, but maybe that's just me.
  • Mikie
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    My inescapable conclusion has become that Israel is committing genocide against the Palestinian people. Having grown up in a Zionist home, lived the first half of my life in Israel, served in the I.D.F. as a soldier and officer and spent most of my career researching and writing on war crimes and the Holocaust, this was a painful conclusion to reach, and one that I resisted as long as I could. But I have been teaching classes on genocide for a quarter of a century. I can recognize one when I see one.

    Surprised the times published this.
  • BitconnectCarlos
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    OMG a Jew said that! Unbelievable! Stunning and brave.
  • BitconnectCarlos
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    Terrifying footage earlier today of Syrian troops going into Druze villages and forcibly shaving the beards off Druze men. Same thing Nazis did to Jews in the early stages. Murders are reported as well; this is fresh news.

    Israel has reportedly passed a message to Al-Julani via Egypt: "Your regime will fall within hours unless you cease the massacre against the Druze and withdraw."
  • BitconnectCarlos
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    kwbjggdthvcf1.jpg?width=1163&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=517e9c85e97e0135e8b704a91362502945a507be

    Something to keep in mind.
  • Mikie
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    OMG a Jew said that! Unbelievable! Stunning and brave.BitconnectCarlos

    Actually it is pretty brave, yes. We all know you’re too stupid to understand why, but please go on with your Nazi sympathizing.
  • Mikie
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    Jewish population in Germany—
    1948: 15,000
    2023: 125,000

    Guess this proves something.
  • BitconnectCarlos
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    Um, yeah, Jewish life has grown in Germany since the Holocaust ended.
  • Mikie
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    Um, yeah, Jewish emigration was pretty large scale since 1948. Must be ethnic cleansing. Nothing significant happened for Jews in 1948.
  • BitconnectCarlos
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    If you think that those Jewish population changes in the Arab countries were all voluntary emigration, I've got a bridge to sell you.
  • Mikie
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    No, that’s ethnic cleansing but turning Gaza into rubble and killing hundreds of thousands of civilians— not ethnic cleansing. Got it. Exactly what the state conducting genocide wants you to say. A long tradition that includes the Nazis. How brave.
  • BitconnectCarlos
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    Hundreds of thousands? I hear that's only kids -- so that would make millions of dead Palestinians. Now that'll stick it to the Zionists. Who cares about sources when what matters is liberation?

    More seriously: You honestly believe ~25% of Gaza has been murdered by Israel? Seriously?
  • neomac
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    Interesting reading:
    Chartbook 396 Strangelove in the Middle East - or how the markets learned to stop worrying and love Israel's rampage
    https://adamtooze.substack.com/p/chartbook-396-strangelove-in-the
  • BitconnectCarlos
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    So Syrian jihadists are murdering Druze and on their way to murder more as I type this. This won't get it's own thread and it will receive scant media attention. Israel has been helping the Druze, but this also won't get attention.

    Funny how Israel is so racist against the Palestinians/Arabs but stands up for the Druze (who are also Arab). Wonder what it is. We shouldn't think too hard, though; Israel is racist, and even though they're saving the Druze, nothing can change that fact. :roll:
  • Mikie
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    :lol:

    Nazi sympathizers can be so cute.
  • BitconnectCarlos
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    Will antifa be demonstrating for the Druze anytime soon? Confront the Islamic fascists sent to butcher them? You should push that through, be the change you want to see in the world.
  • Mikie
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    Will antifa be demonstrating for the Druze anytime soon?BitconnectCarlos

    Ask Antifa.
  • Mikie
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    At least 36 killed by Israeli fire while seeking aid in Gaza, hospital says

    https://apple.news/Aq2J_HexKSYmIGc01vrSaKQ

    Nothing to see here. Just a continued genocide.
  • BitconnectCarlos
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    Fake news. It's actually Hamas killing their own. They want to get to the food first and kill civilians for stealing it.
  • Mikie
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    Fake news.BitconnectCarlos

    :rofl:

    Truly the Donald Trump of this thread. Without the popularity.
  • Wayfarer
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    Agree. It's appalling what is happening in Gaza and it's turning many people otherwise sympathetic to Israel (like me) against them. This has been a repeated pattern ever since the terrible decision to scuttle the UNRWA last year. It's an humanitarian catastrophe, no question.
  • neomac
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    For those who appreciate sarcasm:
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  • Mikie
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    https://www.nytimes.com/video/world/middleeast/100000010370105/nasser-hospital-gaza-israel-attack-videos.html

    What a shocker.

    What’s cool is that the entire world, including the US, knows just what a genocidal, psychopathic state Israel is.
  • Manuel
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    Man, there are just no words left. I don't even comment here and I just see headlines maybe twice a week. It's just... again no words.

    Well, I can say that all those people who loved to say "If I were alive when the Holocaust happened, I would've done something" or words to that effect. Welp, something not entirely dissimilar is happening and you have people DEFENDING this. Granted, a small portion, but it's obscene, grotesque.
  • Mikie
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    Well, I can say that all those people who loved to say "If I were alive when the Holocaust happened, I would've done something" or words to that effect. Welp, something not entirely dissimilar is happening and you have people DEFENDING this. Granted, a small portion, but it's obscene, grotesque.Manuel

    Yes indeed. The people now are even more culpable, since without US support there would be no genocide. It wasn’t like the US was propping up the Nazi regime.

    Sad to see Israel use similar tactics as the very regime that murdered so many of their citizens’ families.
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