That, I think, is a more nuanced and achievable ethic. There's more than one way to play the Game of Thrones.

Generally I don't think 'I will have to look for another job' is effective duress when your current job is unethical. — Kenosha Kid

At 52, I definitely consider 'I will have to look for another job' to be effective duress.

Effective duress is an exception to that. — Kenosha Kid

Quite. To me, it's unfair to judge an employee for doing something under effective duress, when the employer is the effective agent involved.

Society needs to bring back the idea of a noble death. — BitconnectCarlos

You got any pointers on that?

Is that really the only way to survive? Doubtful. — BitconnectCarlos

That's really what the question hinges upon, though: what is necessary. I would not think that that was necessary either.

which is why we should not have a society that forces people to choose. — Kenosha Kid

Yes, I think that most such problems are systemic. Of course, communism showed that one cannot design a society in just any way one wishes.

Yes, I think that that is a humane position to take.

Yes. But to what extent are the employees culpable for the immoral actions the company demands them to perform?

If the employee had reason to fear for their life or family or health if they took a stance, that's a different matter. — Kenosha Kid

That's what I would be concerned about. Many people will not be in a position to be able to just quit a job and get another one without serious ramifications for their lives/families/health.

Was there any specific example, say, from the news that you had in mind? I find that the more real the examples get, the more reliable are the intuitions that you can form from them.