Sure, but didn't know you wanted the full celebrity treatment luvvie.

I fucking demand this be moved back to the front page, given Banno's post — Wallows

Lol.

If you want me to redo this post Baden, as it perhaps deserves better than what I can muster, then let me know whether it's missing a topic subject, introduction, etc. etc. — Wallows

Look at my questions above. There's no law against using Banno's ideas and crediting him. But you need to write a proper OP.

Look at the various definitions:

This one:

"2. One who believes that the human species is divided into observable races."

is pretty much exactly:

racism is the belief that the species may be divided into separate biological taxonomies called “race”. — NOS4A2

I'm aware that race realists are generally racists and use pseudoscience to try to justify discrimination. But bare-bones race realism as defined by @NOS4A2 is not exactly synonymous with racism; hence the separate term.

That's more specifically a definition of "race realism".

https://en.m.wiktionary.org/wiki/race_realist

Oh, they're predominantly academic style guides for my editing work (Chicago, MLA, APA, Turabian etc). They're very fine grained and differ on minutiae depending on the field etc. Thanks for the compliment anyhow. :wink:

Then repost it because I missed it. — Harry Hindu

The fact that you are too lazy to scroll up and read is indicative of the pointlessness of dealing with you. You've earned Chrome ignore. Good luck.

Yeah, hence the comment. If I thought you spent all your time on the forums, I wouldn't have said that, would I?

What the hell? I've asked you questions that you ignored — Harry Hindu

The only question in that is what race I am and why we aren't demanding posters' races. I think you can work that out yourself.

You're the one making the claim that racism is systematic. Now define systematic, and point out the system and members of the system that are racist. — Harry Hindu

Holy sweet Jesus. Where do I start with this? You still haven't found a dictionary. You still don't know what you're claiming. You're still using the wrong words. And I actually did define the term in question.

(In fact, I've provided definitions of both "racism" and "systemic" racism).

BTW, Baden, I have nothing against you, I just think you're a really hypermasculine guy. — Wallows

Lol. Not since I started on philosophy forums. :nerd:

Look, if you don't like the decision, appeal it. I have a feeling though I'm actually one of the more indulgent of you among the mods. I reckon you're a decent guy despite the spurious leper references and non-sequiturs.

As I've tried to make clear, the move has nothing to do with the quality of @Banno's philosophy. I like the old goat.

You made at least 4 discussions in the past 24 hours. Stop making discussions for a while and when you do, please fulfil the elements of a decent OP as best you can as indicated by the questions. And calm down a bit. The lounge is not Calcutta or wherever you reckon all the lepers are. And I'm not oppressing you. We generally get on fine.

A few questions:

1) Did you ask Banno if you could analyze his ideas on the front page?
2) What of substance did you contribute to your own OP?
3) What specific philosophical topic is the OP aimed at examining?
4) What's your thesis with regard to this topic and where is it?
5) Recall being asked not to make too many topics? How many have you made in the past 24 hours?

Why the fuck this got moved to The Lounge Baden, we all know Banno is the most experienced philosopher on this website. — Wallows

Work out the non-sequitur there then get back to me with a better objection.

Clever.

Hehe, I doubt Tiff will join you in that sentiment on this occasion. Not to worry though, I'll make a Marxist of her yet. Might take a huge pizza bribe, but we'll get there.

Conversations with Zizek—Zizek with Glyn Daly

And a bunch of grammar/style guides for work.

Presuming no major third-party runs, Trump will lose 46 to 49 against any Dem short of Biden or Bernie (who'd both break 50). The electoral college won't save him this time. You read it here first.

Political Darwin award shared?

No idea what this has to do with my post.



Hardly. But he's unlikely to come here and debate, so you'll have to do.

Stupid working-class dummies burned themselves to death. I would never do such a thing.

What? Did I say something wrong?

Surely, Mogg must be a sleeper agent.

I love Thomas’ dissenting in this particular case. — NOS4A2

Along with Trump, another great liberal hero of yours, I guess.

Do you believe a government should enact racial policies? — NOS4A2

The word "racial" is neutral. It just means pertaining to race. There are good and bad ways to address issues concerning race. So, it means nothing to ask that question unless you specify what policy you mean. And if you're trying to infect the word "racial" in a general sense with the connotations of the word "racist", you're barking up the wrong tree with anyone who understands English.

@frank

Who knows when HH will show up. So, might as well give you my own definition I held back earlier. Doubt it differs much from the standard.

Systemic racism is a form of racism that is expressed through the practices of institutions in their interactions with socially dominated racial groups, and that serves to reinforce the dominated status of those groups. Systemic racism may be enshrined in law (e.g. apartheid systems) or it may be a matter of practices/policies involving legal interpretation and/or extralegal actions discriminatively applied by those with discretionary power, direct or indirect, at any level of the system. Examples of systems where systemic racism may apply include justice, education, and health in both their private and state-managed manifestations.

Why is so much rambling theological verbiage given space on 'The Philosophy Forum'?

Because @Hanover was chewing on Doritos and watching MMA when he should have been deleting it. Unfortunately, he's a lawyer so we can't fire him.

Yes.

I'll post my own definition afterwards, but I don't want to be accused of prejudicing any replies. I want Harry to look it up himself from a neutral source and figure out if that's what he's saying.

You're on Chrome extension ignore now. @Harry Hindu, if you're capable, answer the question.

Do you realize that I asked a simpler question above in order to begin the process of clarification? Do you realize that above you answered that simpler question intended to help clarify things with another question? Do you understand that I'm aware that you use this tactic all the time to avoid addressing issues and waste other posters' time?

In what way do you see society as involved in this? — Terrapin Station

Your usual tactic of answering questions with questions. :yawn: In what way could you justify society not at all being involved in identity formation?

I don't agree with 1 or 2.

Natural selection mediates biological identity and by extension, social interactions. — Harry Hindu

This has nothing to do with natural selection. We're presuming the existence of humans of both sexes. So, I'll try again. To start off: Society, at whatever level, is involved in forming the identity of individual humans? Yes or no?

Can you just answer the question? Feel free to use a dictionary if you need to.

So if there is no explicitly racist law in place then no systemic racism can possibly exist? That's your claim, right?

1) Society mediates biological identity.
2) The subject is socially embedded.
3) What do you disagree with re 1) and 2)? And how does what I said exclude personal psychological input into identity formation?

Lol.

I’m a liberal. — NOS4A2

If it came to it, we’d probably be in the same foxhole fighting the same enemies. — NOS4A2

Yes, the alt-right. Liberals and lefties of the world unite! :cheer:

Good to have you with us at last, you devilish young man.

I'm going to make this simpler for him.

A basic definition of racism: "prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism directed against someone of a different race based on the belief that one's own race is superior."

(Oxford dictionary.)

Now find the odd one out:

1) Slavery
2) Apartheid
3) Affirmative action

This discussion was merged into Why are We Back-Peddling on Racial Color-Blindness?

It was your detective work in discovering a returning banned member/couple. Right on. :ok:

I am not sure who Baden is but hope to get to know everyone in a short time. — weareacouple

I'm the dude who banned you. Twice. :kiss:

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