emotions are very subjective — Tzeentch

VERY subjective? (sorry for the capital fonts, I still have to figure out Italics). Arent rational thoughts subjective too?

"Creating incompatablity to be combined"

Im not advocating incompatibility. What I do promote is incommensurability. The Greek gods and quarks are all part of one reality indeed. But they are incompatible and commensurable.

I was not saying the device are fiction.
I said the discussion will end up in fiction :D — Corvus

That depends on the people discussing... ☺

The mentioned computers are no fiction. They are real computers but not conforming to the standard view on computers.

However sad that may be, policy should not be determined by emotions. — Tzeentch

Why not?

"Including our newest addition, a 1936 Analog Computer (the RangeKeeper) that
controlled the big guns on the USS St. Louis. The St. Louis was the first ship
to make it out of Pearl Harbor on December 7 1941!"

They are just electrical devices, not computers. — Corvus

These ARE computers. Only non-digital. They conform to the definition of an analogue computer. True, they are non-digital? What do you expect as an answer?

They are just electrical devices, not computers. — Corvus

I dunno. The compact disc player translates (computes) information into soundwaves. The record player does the same. But there is no computation.

the difference being that those flus do not have mass hysteria as a side-effect — Tzeentch

Very good observation! There was (is?) indeed a form of mass hysteria going on! Always advantageous for the the people with power.

Telos and teleosis have just reversed the role of cause and effect in the physical world. The effect proceeds the cause.

"Oh, gee, the geo-political complexities of international trade, and the influence of the MIC dictate that we shouldn't be in this shit-hole getting overrun by guys with bayonets. What say you, Bob?"

I have to admit. You make me laugh (not at you)!

"Jewish Space Laser release"

:lol:

The man would die and those things would still remain unknown to him — Wikipedia

Not if he had tried to remove the arrow (climate change).

2mReplyOptions — Cheshire

The very fact that you write "harmful" lroves that you emphasize harmful. Why didnt you write "potentially harmless"?

Frankly, I fail to see how God matters to epistemology — TheMadFool

Just think about this. Einstein thought the universe is deterministic on the grounds that God dont play dice. So God matters.

The IFR of covid-19 isn't very far from a serious flu. — Tzeentch

How far away is it? A serious flu is one from which you die?

Nice writing. Its indeed all semiotic. The initial state of the universe, causally disconnected to the one proceeding it (though I still have to work out how one big bangs can leave the 5d torus substrate unchanged) contained the seed structures, the seed forms, for all living structures to appear and their connections of a representative internal world to the external one (interdependent) to be formed. The emerged beings are a mere shell, but a living one. The body is the true identity and is the interface between an evoling inner world and an evolving outer one. There are no such things as homuculi. Only the dream part of the inner world (showing itself during nightlh or daily dreamtimes) can show other creatures being appearances letting you know things.

— Cheshire

Its getting all mixed up now. If someone has an argument for not taking the vaxx, it can be a potential harmLESS argument as well. Why do you emphasize harmFULL? Because thats worse? Of course. But thats the point. You dont know. So better be sure and not take it. Off course with the chance of getting infected.

If it is man's nature to use resources, capitalists are manic blind resource exhausters, who never have a reason to moderate until something is gone, and not even then. — Bitter Crank

Thats the usual reply. Its only Natural to destroy the surface of the planet. Who cares? The Earth wont stop to travel around the Sun and life will always find a way. Of course. But not my kind of barren life. All is directed to the short term profit. But people are ratio-endowed. Thats Natural too. I bet you have a big car and lots of material posession! For which I dont blame you by the way...

The coronavirus has killed about 2,700 people so far. The flu kills roughly 60,000-70,000 people each year — Tzeentch

How wrong you were...

The difference with me and the arrow-struck hero being that I trie to remove the arrow. Knowing who shot the arrow and how the arrow is shot and how it has hit in the first place can be helpful.

Nothing I've said approaches complicated. — Cheshire

I didnt say it is complicated. I say you could have replaced "false" (in false arguments) by "true" (so it become true arguments).

So his knowledge about love affairs with women wasnt true knowledge? Or did he know that in fact he knew nothing about them (which I can imagine...)?

Then why did you bring it up? You could have "false" replaced by "right".

Like I'm 'encouraging' you to actually think... — Isaac

:lol:

Ah yes! I see what you mean. Must have mixed two sentences up. What I meant is why should the argument not to vaxx be false? What if its right?

ALL doctors, drugstore owners, distribution companies, medical researchers, hospital and med equipment manufacturers, psychologists, alternative doctors, nurses (especially them...except when they are men...), or whoever works in that field, should get paid equally. Just eneough to survive. Obligatory. Maybe we should consider making them slaves. Thats where the gun comes in handy.

Free med care!

I just have to let you know:

"Why make others feel like scum if their 70% is reached?"

Im on your side! And referring to how lucky we should be that the big pharmaceutical companies take care for us is bullshit. They made it in the first place (dont feel obliged to believe this though...I could be wrong).

Exactly — Cheshire

Are you addressing me?

Energy must exist, but can not without information, so it is a tricky question. Largely physics has been blind to this, and only lately has it become a consideration. — Pop

I think you are getting close! Energy, at least forms of it, needs interaction to have a form. A circle form will "evaporate" if no interactions are considered. Its a pitty you havent studied quantum fields. A free field (without a gauge field to INTERACT with,is a weird thing... To say the least... :smile:

If they are still living after the pandemic. And all non-vaxxers will probably die. Only the strong ones will survive or build up immunity themselves.

other's shouldn't as well because of X" — Cheshire

Why others should the argument be false? Why should a non-vaxxer want others not to vax too? I dont want them! Let them! Their offspring will notice!!!

It's the same world as the only world there is, it isn't a different reality. — Fine Doubter

Yes. Only the dreamtime world reality is the real one. The world of quarks and leptons is just a minor part of it.

If a device is analogue, then it is not a computer — Corvus

What about a record player vs compact disc player?

I didnt know there where that many! Thanks!!!

:smile:

So the only reality is that of vector spaces? But what if the realities are non-physical? You assumed I had these in mind, bu I havent. What you propose here is a math model of how physics pro- or regresses. But that physical way of thinking is just one among many. My first example of massless, interacting rishon fields is the absolute example of this reality.8

The wavefunction contains only information about the chances where to find a particle. — Prishon

Yuuuup!!! And thats ALL ( objective) to be found. Its us assigning a variation of that wavefunction. Thats no inherent property.. There is no such thing as an objective wavefunction traveling through momentum space.Sorry...

Which suggests I've at least seen the time-independent Schrödinger equation. — Kenosha Kid

Im way past that equation. Sorry...

Because I'm the one who knows that you can get more than positions out of a wavefunction maybe? — Kenosha Kid

Again you jump to unexamied conclusions. Where did I state you cant get more than position from the wavefunction? Calling the Wigner function a fiekd I find very strange. QFT is not what we discuss now. We discuss the wavefunction which is derivable from fields. Who is the liar? You.