What excites me is a willingness to fuck with the code. It may be a terrible idea, but it's hard for me to expect much from the tired, other ideas that leave the code as it is. I don't expect to live long enough to see any brave new world that might arrive, so it's more of a theoretical-aesthetic point for me. — Zugzwang

I fuck with the code every night. My wife likes it. I'm currently try to change the code (helped by the brain that radiates into the body) of tooth cells and their surroundings so a lost tooth will grow back.

If memory serves, there's the idea that when it comes to psychololgy, it's very difficult to put the required level of distance between the observer/researcher and the observed/subject because, well, they're one and the same viz. us; that would preclude an objective analysis — TheMadFool

Are you saying the patients are the doctors and vice-versa?

Hello, I just recently entered college and I have Philosophy as one of my classes and I want to be good at it, but I just can't concentrate while studying so let me ask, What's the best way to learn philosophy?: — DesperateBeing

"The world of Sophie" (De wereld van Sophie) by Jostein Gaarder.

The expression fo9und in the T-sentence; "P is true" is the same as P. The "...is true" is redundant. — Banno

Abracadabra...Simsalabim...HocusPocus...PilatusPas...

We evolved into ‘meaning-seeking beings’. — Wayfarer

That's because, contray to animals, we are born naked. We are born without tools to operate in the world. Our brain is not a tool. It gives us ideas to grasp and operate by using hands, feet, back, eyes, ears, etc. We can interact with fellow people by talking, singing, art, listening, understanding, exchanging scientific ideas and math. We can experience love, as do animals. Love means inclusion, love is against isolation. Animals don't need language. They are transfixed. No need for apperception, at least, not in the measure we need it. Parrots can talk. The can perfectly copy sounds. These sounds lack a fertile base though, from which new sounds can spring up and evolve.

Bye. — Banno

Give up already?

But if Russell is correct in pointing out that we can't imagine space with nothing in it, — Amalac

He is not correct. If I imagine an empty fish bowl in intergalactic space I imagine an empty space.

When it is true...? — Banno

I knew you would answer that! For a fact! I'm not telling you a lie...

. Nor are they even consistent. — khaled

Why should they be consistent? Aren't they consistent (litterally meaning "standing together") by the very fact they both are there?

Why can't it be that YOU are your body?

Besides that, my whole description was about showing that the body is something separate from YOU. — Alkis Piskas

Why do you wanna show that? You think there is more to matter than meets the eye?

Yeah. Nuh. You lost me. — Banno

The question is simple! When is a fact a fact?

My question is whether or not these concepts are discovered or enforced, because they never really seem to cleanly translate. — khaled

You mean translated into one another?

What? — Banno

A fact.

Rather, your mind is a certain configuration of your body. That seems to get past all the problems you cite without proposing a dualism. For instance: "He stormed out because he was angry". — khaled

:up:

Though the mind is not us. It just shows us things. We are not in control of it. We don't do the thinking and feeling.

You're perhaps beginning to see it. Being a fact is the same as being true. — Banno

But when it's true?

A statement is only ever a fact if it is true. And further, that's all there is to a statement's being a fact. — Banno

Feels circular. When is something a fact? When it's true. When is something true? When it's a fact.

This topic is about a specific position: "You are not a body". It does not ask "Are you a body?" — Alkis Piskas

You are not your body. You are more than that. Your body is connected to your brain. The brain is formed out of food eaten. This means matter is more tha, eeehh, matter. Matter has something in it to give light or fire to the brains inside of us. It makes us see thoughts and feel feelings. The body is more than empty matter. I agree with this completely. There is no I that is thinking.

Is the theory yours? I'm not sure why you state we are not our body. We are, but not in the pure matter sense. That's just an abstraction, just as saying that we are our brains.

I can use a mirror to indirectly observe what my face looks like. Indirect self knowledge is possible. My point is that some part of the reference-er cannot refer directly at itself. — Yohan

The part that refers cannot be referred to while referring. Indeed. But what's so important about tha? Making a prediction cannot be part of that what is to be predicted.

For me, for example, that there is another planet in our galaxy with humanoid creatures living on it is either a fact or it is not, regardless of whether we can discover the truth of the matter. — Janus

It's a fact. Somewhere in the Milky Way there are creatures with hands, arms, feet, legs, a digestion system, and a brain. Somewhere in spactime, on the worldline of our galaxy. Humanoid life is not bound to Earth. If we could travel to an average star (traveling at the speed of light we could get there in the wink of an eye though accelerating and decellerating would make our clocks lag behind the clocks on Earth). The chance of meeting otherworldly lifeforms would be high. Humanoids might not yet be present or not present anymore. They span a relatively very short time in creature evolution, an evolution which is inevitable on a rotating planet around a star at the right distance. The universe is full of life. To find the chance of finding life you just have to calculate the chance the planet has the right mass and distance to its star. There have been found Earth-like exoplanets. We have looked at life when observing them (transitions).

Animals are born perfect. People are born naked.

My point exactly. How is a tool going to allow a tiger to transcend his capabilities? Is it going to carry a butcher knife in its maw? — Hermeticus

Maybe in a magical circus show.

- all other animals come with their tools attached to their bodies - claws, teeth, physical prowess. — Hermeticus

That, amongst other things, is why they don't need spoken language. They understand one another because they, contrary to humans, are fixed. The chimp is still in the process of shredding his hairs off but they are happy with their in-between state. Sometimes laughing, sometimes using sticks to collect ants, sometimes using their sharp front teeth to rip apart.

Science is just one culture amongst many but "thanks" to the fruits in the science trees (some of which are picked premature while others hang rotting) this culture has achieved world dominance. It's not because it's inherently better that it has gained its status. It's because of the power of the high- or low-tec weaponary that it has achieved it. And because of propaganda and a carefully developed education program. It's made more sexy than it is in reality, though it can be great fun, especially the physics of quantum fields and general relativity. And their combination. Or the science of a black hole and Hawing (not Unruh!) radiation. A realcstretch for the mind! Good morning brain excercise.

But a human, as a psychological being, is formed by at least four levels of semiosis - genes, neurons, words and numbers. — apokrisis

Genes are not involved in semiosis. The only contain information about amino acids to be put together in a certain order. The formed proteins have their own semiosis. Genes are merely part of a giant curled up structure (the 2 meter long acids in the nuclei, even 23 of them!). In every cell of our body (let's talk redux) the is a portion of this molecule used. To form specific proteins. You can say, and I'm talking Lamarckian now, that we and all organisms on Earth (though there are exceptions) are the masters of the altruistic obedient genes (contrary to the selfish ones of Dawkins).

It's that easy. We have the physics interpretation. Information= entropy=klnN (a number).

Then we have the information (non-quantifiable) contained in forms. There is a huge variety of them. They are contained in the physical world and in the world of the brain, interacting via our body and they are interdependent. The depend on the initial state of the universe.

Just imagine a world where Homo Sapiens doesn't invent language. We'd still be in the stone age. — Hermeticus

But without hydrogen bombs or pollution and western decadence.

Maybe because it allows us toTALK? There is a huge variety of free forms whirling around in our brains. Various meanings, images, worldviews, categories, ideas, fantasies, dreams, or take your pick. We are free thinkers, contrary to animals with their fixed clothes and thinking and their standard expressions. Language makes us understand one another while at the same time it can make us feel the loneliest creatures in the world. Language is beautifull, varied, idiosyncratic, cultural, ambivalent, and can be an expression of freedom. Language is what we yearn for to express, to belong, to stand apart, to describe or make strangers understand. Be it writen words, body gestures, or loud shouting.

Since science rules suppreme thousands of natural languages have dissappeared, to be replaced by English (though a common language can be easy, of course: Esperanto) and the so-called language of nature: mathematics. Math is not what I hear though when I listen to nature talking (though it's a nice language, if you understand it, as I do).