Reality doesn't need an observer at all. Since Bohr and consorts made this statement in the realm of quantum mechanics, the statement got a firm grip. Giving rise to weird experiments like putting a cat mentally in a cave and killing it with poison. It gave rise to weird concepts like a many worlds interpretation. Why should reality need an observer? Of course in perceiving reality we project our interpretation on it and the interpretation eco.es the reality. Colored objects indeed need an observer to exist. Gods need our concept of them to exist. Atoms our quantum mechanical picture of them. Without an observer, there is no reality. So, in a sense reality needs observers. But not to be created by us. God's would be mad if they knew we think we created them. Atoms likewise. Though they are usually quite serene and forgiving...

Not really. A key indicator of mental ill health (or a developing issue) are chronic feelings of sadness, emptiness or anger. — Tom Storm

Of course you are right here. I interpreted mental differently though. Thoughts and emotions are different things, If you include feelings in mental health then yes, your emotional health, depending mutually on your "thoughts health" can indeed be in bad shape. If you consider the mental as comprising both thoughts and feelings, and all the stuff that surrounds them, the you are absolutely right. Thoughts and emotions are mutually dependent, and the health of one can influence the state of the other. Thinking about the possibility of total nuclear annihilation or the destruction of nature makes me feel sad and powerless. Luckily I feel better if I think of nice things. But when I was depressed the feeling of sadness didn't go away, no matter what I tried. The e.otional side of my brain was sick, though the mental part (as understood by me) did it's best, unconsciously, to heal. I'm sure the emotional part was involved too. No brain in its good mind wants to give bad feelings to its owner, and often I was angry to it.

The emotional fitness has a different content than the mental one. The left side of the brain is functionally very different than the right one. Some psychopaths can kill without feeling bad about it. A state of mind, overly present in many people with authoritative posisitions.

Happy in delusion? Think the religious, the power and the glory forever and ever, ever lasting life and the talking snake, they seem to be pretty happy on the whole.
18h Reply — boagie

Likewise, some people seem to be happy in the delusion that the universe is just a real 4d Riemannian manifold, on which quantum fields, potential gauge fields an kinetic matter fields, play themselves out, like Roman chariots of fire in an arena.

don't howl at me, you bafoon, or is it baboon? Lots of monkey talk, ensues... — Varde

Sono un buffone!

Biological simulation is not perfect, one needs only look at people considered colour blind because they interpret certain frequencies differently than the majority. It is not a matter of right or wrong but a biological interpretation/simulation. A somewhat different biology, simulates a somewhat different apparent realty. — boagie

Ah! A sign of intelligence. I read that blind people, seeing only blackness, still have a sense of visual direction. Will we seeing people be ever capable experiencing that? There are different regions in the visual cortex. We can assign a directive function to it, but will that ever "explain" the conscious experience? Or will the notion of a wavelength explain red or blue?

A typical monkey reply. Fast and aggressive. What do you know about my art. Absolutely nothing, and considering the fact that you are surrounded by p-zombies I can only infer you are one your self. A monkey version, that is. I appreciate this sad fact. But a monkey can't help she's a monkey. And there is more to learn from a real monkey, than from a p-zombie-like one. Talking about abstract tesseacts without actually knowing what a tesseract is, seems pretty p-zombie like. People being tesserats... What trip you are on. I like LSD too, but to see people as tesseracts is one fucking bridge too far. So, in your holy tesseraxy, I wish you all the best! I hope you become immortal, being an empty vessel of memes trying to replicate and multiply. Good look in your attempt to do so. Make them immortal and submit the world to their inherent misery.

Cept one of us. — Varde

Are you a monkey? Considering your short monkey-like comment, this seems to be the case.

Are gravitons even real, rather than virtual calculational devices — apokrisis

Very real! Like photons are very real. The running coupling constant of photons is based on a wrong interpretation of a particle, be it a one dimensional point or a two dimensional string. Both give rise to problems like renormalizition, and strings still give rise to a singularity of spacetime, though a less severe one than poit-like particles do. Virtual particles are said to be mathematical tools, that's a common naive approach, made by people who don't care to investigate further. They maybe virtual but are certainly not unreal. Like gravitons are certainly not unreal. How else is the connection made?

You are into Theology my friend, and it is not a legitimate topic/subject. When nonsense is made sacred, the world is in trouble. — boagie

I'm not aware of any fucking theological knowledge my friend. And truly don't give a damn for it. Thoughts on death were asked, I gave them. I could put my thoughts in a "legitimate" scientific frame, but who, for fucking God sakes, says science is right? You are just a human vessel, trying to make your empty meemes immortal. An irrational and vacuous attempt, detached from life. :smile:

Gravity must run its couplings — apokrisis

Why should gravitons have a running coupling constant?

There is no life without death. Eternal life is the same as eternal death. Hence there is life before and after. Death before and after.And in between they are both.

Like there is no day without night and no evil without good. Like sleep divides the rythm of night and day, death divides the cosmic rythm of the singular and the infinite. Infinity and singularity mean nothing without the god-given life and death. Like life divides the same daily rytm, so does it divide the cosmos. Unified at the border between infinity and singularity, life and death play eternal divine rythms in their middle.

And amidst those divine unification, all we can do enjoy life in an infinite divine way, or suffer from it. We can experience life in an animal-like way, trying to cling to life instinctively, without a knowledge of the infinities we are embedded in. Without a knowledge the miraculous wonders we are immersed in. But with an instinctive drive to stick.

Or experience life in a modern suffering-baseed mode, leading to contemplated death, an immature escape. One can escape death by the futile and naively childish attempts to become genetically or meme-based immortal.

But one can also rest assure that death is just death, a necessary condition for the divine gift that life actually is. Rest assure that death is just an intermediary of whatever form of life.

People and animals on all planets of the universe are understandably clinging to life to stay away from death. But death is not to fear. Death gives life. Once death, how else can it be that life will not be instantaneously after?

Eternal death is as mad to assume as eternal life. Death can be a welcome way out in modern society, as detached from reality as the worldview it presents. There is even money to be made from suicide. Death can be the easy way out. At the same time it gives meaning to life and

We can rest assure that no one shall ever understand the damned and blessed gift of live. We can only try to unfearingly cling to the bittersweet heavenly derived juice of life. Accepting and understanding that death is nothing to fear and the fear of it just the result of an unhealthy growth. Again, realizing that death is not eternal by its very nature.