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  • Bootstrap Philosophy and Goeffrey Chew.


    My name is not M...

    The question I asked is not give fiat yet... Yesterday asked. See what I mean?
  • Would an “independent” thinker be wiser than an academic/famous philosopher?
    Full profs earn a nice salary and who cares whether he been awarded some of it for himself? You gave him as an example of an independent thinker (although you seem conflicted on that score)Tobias

    He just put together a bunch of old ideas. But in the wrong order. And his idea is already proven wrong. So geniuses are not always geniuses. Maybe never.
  • Would an “independent” thinker be wiser than an academic/famous philosopher?
    Of course assembly line work is much more stimulating.Tobias

    Indeed. Einstein had his best ideas at work.
  • Bootstrap Philosophy and Goeffrey Chew.
    If all your gods have mothers and they had mothers are you not back to infinite regress again.
    Which god is your chosen first cause?
    universeness

    Not one is a first cause cause. Jesus brother Uni I get a bit tired of having to defend myself. If your intention is to unmask the theist, go try it at someone else. You cant unmask me because I wear no mask!
  • Bootstrap Philosophy and Goeffrey Chew.
    I thought you said you had been on these sites many times and had been banned many timesuniverseness

    Yes. On stack exchange, physics forum and one national here.
  • Bootstrap Philosophy and Goeffrey Chew.
    I don't mind if foolish people insist on remaining foolish.universeness

    My dear mother of god...
  • Bootstrap Philosophy and Goeffrey Chew.
    I am glad you at least admit it's BSuniverseness

    Science is BS just the same. But you won't admit it.
  • Bootstrap Philosophy and Goeffrey Chew.
    That's because I am more convinced by my understanding of their physics than yours.universeness

    That's because you don't understand QFT properly and just parrot what the "expert" says. Can't you see what they do? Apparently not. I suggest you study QFT properly first, before continuing. You don't seem to get it! Woowoo! :lol:
  • Nothing is really secular, is it?
    My bullets are blanks! So the worst I can do is bruise someone!Agent Smith

    :lol:
  • Nothing is really secular, is it?
    Right back at you!!!!!universeness

    I like the gods. If you don't then you dont. I dont wanna talk about them gods anymore. Lets talk science!
  • Nothing is really secular, is it?
    You suggested most youngsters find science wonderful and exciting, like I do!universeness

    I meant I find it not boring but most youngsters do. My dear mother of god brother Uni. Why the hostility?
  • Bootstrap Philosophy and Goeffrey Chew.
    Your welcome, although I don't know why you are thanking me for your own postings on Quora.universeness

    Because if you didn't offer the posting I wouldn't have posted myself! M il Guercio. My pseudo on quora.
  • Bootstrap Philosophy and Goeffrey Chew.
    Not what I suggested. Space IS one big field of potential. disturbances/excitationsuniverseness

    That's what I meant. But it's not like that. WOOWOOOOO! :lol:

    Virtual particles are also a mathematical tool. It is mere projection to suggest that that which is virtual become real. I think I will call that 'the Pinocchio fallacy.' Explain the detail of how something 'virtual' can become 'real.' Energy turning into mass for example is not virtual becoming real as the energy involved was already real.universeness

    That's what they make you think. Virtual particles nor real particles are mathematical constructions, fluctuations or excitations of fields. That's what they tell you and you parrot it. Fields are just math constructions, not reality. Fields assign states in a Fock space. And these states correspond to free particle wavefunctions. And these describe particles! Hopping within the confines of the wavefunction. The wavefunctions in QM are cross sections of fields. A virtual particle is virtual in the sense that its not on mass shell. So energy and 3 momentum are independent. And a virtual particle wavers amongst all possible E's and p's. So when two electrons interact the can offer the right E and p.

    If I advocate for humans to become an interplanetary species with increased lifespan options then I think it would be more progressive towards such goals to promote science and scientists that regress or hinder such goals by allowing BS from mystics to have airspace.universeness

    Of course you might promote whatever you like. But you nevef can forbid people to talk woowoo BS because it doesn't fit your, glorious" goal of immortal supermen. Jesus man! Are you so dissatisfied with yourself? :lol:
  • Would an “independent” thinker be wiser than an academic/famous philosopher?
    Edit: why do you think he gets the 2000 K? Not to buy a villa in South of France... he gets it to set up a research community, so that his ideas can be expanded upon and refined because they are apparently promising.Tobias

    And who pays? You really think he doesn't take a nice part of the pie? I saw his car. Not a cheap one...
  • Would an “independent” thinker be wiser than an academic/famous philosopher?
    The man is a genius of course, but not independentTobias

    What genius is? We're all geniuses in principle. It are the circumstances that make it flourish. An academic milieu is not really stimulating. Verlinde has it the wrong way round by the way. Two million euros thrown away.
  • Nothing is really secular, is it?
    I do and I am no youngster, not physically or mentally!universeness

    Not sure I get this. You are no youngster. Okay. And you like science. Okay. Just like me. But still, most youngsters dont.

    :lol: NO! it's a waste imouniverseness

    Then stop thinking about gods! :lol:
  • Nothing is really secular, is it?
    [quote="universeness;697515"]Just because you and Tom feel this way about Science does not make it so.
    I find Science wonderful and exciting[/quote]

    I dont think it is. But most youngsters do!
  • Nothing is really secular, is it?
    You were taught science and look what happened to you! :rofl:
    2m
    universeness

    :lol:

    Aint it great!?
  • Bootstrap Philosophy and Goeffrey Chew.
    Anyway, how about pair productionuniverseness

    A real particle pair is just a time extended virtual particle. All particles in the universe eventually meet up with it's anti version to dive back into virtual existence. In agreement with my view on two constituent massless particle fields. There are equal amounts of these two basics and their anti's. So all particle-antiparticle pairs are just one particle that has gotten a direction in time. It's a broken up quantum bubble (which is just one, virtual particle still fluctuating in space and time).

    Hey! Got my first follower on Quora! Entered a question and 16 answers yesterday. Thanks to you, brother Uni! :starstruck:
  • Nothing is really secular, is it?
    catholic schools are still very much allowed in the British system?universeness

    Yes, and rightly so. But the point is what is taught. The university I graduated from was christian too. It's even called the "free" university! Havent heard a word bout christ though. Only in the introduction week with other students.
  • Nothing is really secular, is it?
    So how do you account for the subject of RE (Religious Education) taught in all Scottish secondary schools and the fact that Scottish catholic schools are still very much allowed in the British system?
    Half the schools here have the word 'Saint' in their names!
    universeness

    Yeah, at Christian schools here you get one hour per week about the bible. One hour to much in my opinion but the rmmajority to learn is science. Is there one youngster with a diploma that shows a good performance in christianity? Com on brother Uni!
  • Bootstrap Philosophy and Goeffrey Chew.
    Noooooooooooo! You will never be allowed to do that. Your scientific musing will always be related to your dalliances with theismuniverseness

    What the fuck? Are you serious here or role playing? I hope the last! We have enough discussed about the gods. Let them peacefully rest and look how we talk science! Just ignore them or pretend they don't exist! Yeeeeeeeeeees!

    Okay. Space. You say it's caused by vibrating strings. What makes them vibrate?
  • The Churchlands
    How about grammar? Syntax? Semantics? Do you think they will be explained in terms of neuroscience?Wayfarer

    Of course. They can be explained as neuronal structured dynamic parallel patterns of spike potentials. Every process in the physical world can be simulated and ordered or analyzed or used or creatively varied into new patterns. Which happens in structured ways. All perceptions are related and partially shaped by other one. With appropriate constraints, usually holonomic.
  • The Churchlands
    The statement "eventually consciousness and qualia will eventually be explained with neuroscience" is speculative, but no more so that "consciousness and qualia will never be explained by neuroscience."GLEN willows

    How else could it be explained? We are what we eat. Material! A huge and complex collection. With a face that can smile, arms and legs, a brain to be aware and think, etc. It's the nature of the material thats important.
  • Can there be a proof of God?
    If you knock down earliest domino so that dominoes start to fall down then today cannot be reachedSpaceDweller

    There is no earliest domino. In an infinite series of big bangs there is always one banging.
  • Nothing is really secular, is it?
    Why does he say the world is ‘devoid of meaning’? What role does he think science plays in it? Why do you think he capitalises ‘Science’?’Wayfarer

    Because that "devoid of meaning" fits his scientific ideal.
  • Nothing is really secular, is it?


    You might not like science, but it's the state pushing it by law into the minds of the young. Like God once was.
  • Nothing is really secular, is it?
    I know you keep raising science but as an atheist I have limited interest in science. I don't look to it for anything except as a tool for solving certain types of problems. I am one of those vexed people who find science and maths dull.Tom Storm

    That's exactly the reason I believe in gods. Because science is dull and boring and claims to know the truth. But it hasn't. Luckily. Whatever meaning and purpose we find, what's the difference with gods being there and not being there?
  • Bootstrap Philosophy and Goeffrey Chew.


    How would talking with a mystic change your physics, and how do you know it's not for the good? I think Bohm learns more about physics from talking to the mystic than from talking to you and listen to your view on physics, which is rather shallow, if you don't mind me saying.

    I think he was a flim-flam man who was clever enough to earn an easy living.universeness

    J know a few of them on the university department of physics! 15000 euro/month. For sitting around, making notes, and having free lunches.

    I also still am currently most convinced by the idea that our Macro 3D space could be due to something akin to or exactly like string vibrations in > 3 dimensions. Phenomena like Gravity and time etc would result purely as a consequence of subatomic interactions in a similar way to wind or weather phenomena being a consequence of interactions rather than a separate fundamental forceuniverseness

    Emergent gravity is an old theme (Erik Verlinde's take has it the wrong way round though). 3D space and thermodynamical time are indeed emergent on a wider 4D space context. Empty space doesn't emerge from graviton strings, as strings are woowoo in the first place. The problem with quantum gravity is that condensates of gravitons can't account for curvature, even though they are tensor particles. Ask this question on a physics forum and... The problem is how spacetime is curved. This can only by letting gravitons get a direct grip on space. And the hidden variables make up space in which, even in a vacuum, particles whirl around. The virtual whirling is accompanied by space. Negatively curved.
  • Bootstrap Philosophy and Goeffrey Chew.
    I see this as a universe that in its entirety, is like a liquid. Nothing can separate from the liquid ln the way that happens during a 'splash' in water. There is no 'outside' of the universe. But space is dynamic and individualuniverseness

    The universe like a liquid? Hidden variables constitute space. They are like liquid in the sense that particles swim in it and are guided by it. Particles hop around within the confines of the wavefunction. You repeatedly have made the mistake to see fields as disturbances of space. Fields are just mathematical tools. The fields assign operator valued distributions to every point in space. The operators "create" or "annihilate" free particle states. Creation means turning a virtual particle real and annihilation means turning real to virtual. Two electrons interact by coupling to omnipresent virtual photons. There is no emission, no absorption. All particles are conserved. Ther only are shapeshiftings from real to virtual and vice-versa.

    So in a sense, the water analogy is a good one. But what the water is, is wrong in your case. The fields not are space. It are the hidden variables.
  • Nothing is really secular, is it?
    could it not the case that people seek and grab hold of belief systems like drowning people cling onto driftwood in the oceanTom Storm

    In a sense. But the driftwood is meant to keep the Sea of Nihility from drowning you. Precisely because science can't offer any reason for existence the driftwood is necessary to stay alive. Now, you can collect all driftwood and construct a ship for fools with it, or you can construct a prison boat. I prefer a ship of fools with excursions in the depths of the silent sea.
  • Would an “independent” thinker be wiser than an academic/famous philosopher?
    Of course there are rare geniuses, but if science would depend on them no progress would be madeTobias

    Not in quantity no. But in quality. All physicists love the genius physicist. When they're dead...

    No, no kidding. The Dutch Erik Verlinde got a 2 000 000 (no kidding!) euro prize for a so-called revolutionary theory on emergent gravity and dark matter and energy, not realizing he has it backwards. A genius, so is thought. It turns out he's no genius after all. But he got the origin debate of gravity, DM and DE redirected and refreshed. He might have caused a paradigm shift. How will a community cause such a shift. It's mostly a genius, and probably an outside genius, causing the shift because they're not bound.
  • Would an “independent” thinker be wiser than an academic/famous philosopher?
    Why do you think you are capable of making this judgment about others?Tobias

    It's not a judgement. It's the truth. Especially in physics. Many attempts to give a diverging view is cut off, banned, or closed to further giving the idea space. If you have a career in physics and you promote a genial idea, one not helps to explore it. On the contrary, competition, self-righteousness, envy, career, etc. limit the idea, contrary to the scientific imperative to know. It's a sad situation, on the forums and academia world even more. The Perimeter institute in Canada seems to be a welcome exception. It's a sad sad situation...
  • Nothing is really secular, is it?


    :lol:

    Truly, dear Agent! If I would collect the things you typed, and bundled them, it would be a bestseller! I know it gets boring me saying this, but I cant stop it!
  • Nothing is really secular, is it?
    It's not true that both nihilists and theists invent meaning, reason, or purpose. The transcendentalist is pointed at the why by revelation. The moral is communicated from heaven. The secular nihilist invents the moral: the Law. For virtual all situations, laws are made up. Including sentences like 7856 years in jail or three times the death penalty.
  • Nothing is really secular, is it?
    What's nihilism's selling point?Agent Smith

    Nothing!
  • Nothing is really secular, is it?
    . I think wayfarer was involved with Tom storm concerning idealism equating to nihilismMerkwurdichliebe

    Ha! A great answer to Tom Storm! No doubt. You are enlightened... But Ill move on...

    Anyone who likes dr. Strangelove is enlightened, in my humbly humble opinion! Ive seen it a considerable amount of time. "No fighting in the warroom!" And its impossible not to laugh about herr doctor.

    But idealism vs. nihilism... :lol:
  • Nothing is really secular, is it?
    . I have stupider opinions than the rest I assure youMerkwurdichliebe

    That's what I mean! :lol:
  • Why are there so few women in philosophy?


    10 June I offer a reply on the assumptions made about women.
  • Nothing is really secular, is it?
    Very nice! Need I say more.Merkwurdichliebe

    Dunno why, but after reading a few of your words you seem to be one of the more enlightened persons here. One gets to know them... "Jawohl mein Führer!" :lol: