Keep throwing the insults, hypocrite.

If some group rapes and murders your own are you allowed to hit back or is it still “do no harm?” You really committed to that one? Or is it only until someone else crosses a line? I call bullshit.

Someone starts giving opinions or attitudes you don’t like “do no harm” is getting scrapped real fast. Bullshit. Like you.

^ straight from the mouth of the Gaza health ministry if they told you 150k babies murdered you’d be parroting that claim. In Hamas we trust :lol:

Boo hoo can’t believe Israel is going after rapists who murdered over a thousand people and kidnapped children how could they??? :cry: :cry:

1200 murdered and Israel isn’t allowed to hate. One George Floyd dies and buildings go up in flames. Hypocrite.

You’d be saying the same thing about murderous white supremacists hypocrite. Like you don’t hate the KKK.

Praying for the IDF in Rafah now. Closing in on the Hamas vermin.

In the ceasefire deal Hamas offered to return hostages dead or alive :lol:

Palestine is a place, but it is not a state.

They would be crying over an inch of Jewish autonomy; there’s your “criminal dispossession.” They want it all and anything less is “occupation.”

Those Palestinians went house to house to murder their neighbors and burn babies in cribs. That’s not resistance. Just pure wickedness. I reject Warsaw ghetto comparisons as ridiculous. Hamas rules their own.

Just an observation, but whenever Israel is referred to you think the state but when Palestine is referred to you think individual Palestinian civilians. :chin:

Zionism is decolonization and self-determination does not apply to terrorists. I fear though that you suffer from Israel Derangement Syndrome where you obsess over one Middle Eastern state to the exclusion of those around it.

Gaza health ministry reports 1700 killed in the NYPD airstrike on Columbia university most of the dead are woman and children.

The Palestinians are an ancient and Noble people who desire nothing more than to live in peace and harmony with their neighbors. Some of the most peaceful people on earth. But the Zionist cannot stand the sight of Palestinian happiness, so he oppresses them.

Did you know that Jesus was a Palestinian?

Why do you say German children in WWII were killed but Palestinian children were “murdered?”:chin:

Some blacks fought for the Confederacy. May I introduce you to Mr. Jesse Lee Peterson?

Some blacks were fine with slavery & with their roles under the confederacy. Jews are beginning to realize that all that “racial justice” and DEI only applies to some groups. Jews get barred from campus and not a pipe from that crowd.

There is no genocide but there are modern day brown shirts — the student groups barring Jews from their campuses and who are openly calling for antisemitism violence.

I am 100% serious in calling the Palestinian governments oppressors and aggressors. Islam is an expansionist political ideology which Hamas takes very seriously. “First the Saturday people, then the Sunday people.” First the Jews, then the West. But maybe you’d be fine with that.

If we’re serious about destroying all oppression we could all just kill ourselves. But in the meantime I say Hamas first - the aggressor and oppressor.

what about freeing the Palestinian people from being hostages of their own governments and their oppressive policies? Destroy all oppression. Release everybody!

Funny how they never demand a Palestine free of Hamas’s occupation & oppression. Such a thing is never mentioned. Everything with these people is one sided.

Glad to hear that you’re a Zionist. :)

What’s wrong with trying to understand the beliefs and worldview of an interlocutor? I like to understand why people think as they do.

What would it even mean for God to reveal his will to someone? Couldn’t they just interpret it as a hallucination or a delusion? Or an alien. How does God prove that he is God? Could not a powerful alien or imagined being do great feats?

Only faith will do. Faith is the starting point.

This is one of your more reasonable posts.

Question - would you be upset if Israel killed 15k Palestinians but they were all Hamas? What are your thoughts on the dead Hamas fighters?

Also what do you think about the much larger death tolls elsewhere in the world that receive virtually zero attention and zero mass protests?

Jesus first came for the Jews but he later sent his disciples out among the nations. Jesus is concerned with man’s salvation and the kingdom heaven as well as various scriptural matters debated among the rabbinic teachers of the day. Jesus emerges from the Israelite/Jewish tradition (he is Jewish) but his message is drawn from universalism within that tradition/civilization/their holy texts.

I dont read Jesus as an ascetic because of passages like Matt 11:19.

The problem is that due to the profoundity of such teachings, many lack the capability, will or time to fully understand them. Religious faith and religion is the next best thing to actual understanding, or so some may argue.

Jesus holds strong positions about various Jewish-religious-scriptural debates so if you don’t have a background into that subject or if you’re not familiar with the old testament then one won’t be able to properly contextualize/understand the logic (or lack thereof) behind Jesus’s positions.

I found Philosophy to be of very little use in understanding Jesus. A knowledge of literature will help one much more. As will historical knowledge. His followers/disciples will shed light on his teachings and aid in understanding. Yes it is written that Jesus is the divine logos but I haven’t been able to make much of this.

Real life isn’t palatable. Tsunamis and hurricanes kill countless. I get that you may want God to be sparkles and rainbows but if there is a singular God who is above nature and in charge of everything then I don’t know how our account of him would be sparkles and rainbows and representative of reality at the same time. Something’s gotta give.

He floods the world earlier in the book.

If we imagine a historical Abraham in ~1900 bc he wouldn’t know whether child sacrifice is right or wrong. It was a norm of the time. The logic was it appeased gods and led to a good harvest. So maybe this god demands it too. But it turns out he doesn’t luckily.

And child sacrifice unfortunately was practiced by the ancient Israelites from time to time up until the second temple period. So no this story did not stop child sacrifice. And if you’ll are mad that God messes with Abraham’s head well I’ve got some news for you…

You ever notice how the pro-pali protests frequently involve violence, vandalism, or intimidation especially of Jewish spaces? It’s bigger than just a regional issue. The protestors lack civility. The only thing that matters in their minds is the absolute righteousness of the cause. They are zealots who never cared about much larger amounts of muslim suffering elsewhere.

we’re not going to see eye to eye because apparently to you there’s no moral difference between 1200 civilians murdered execution style because of their ethnic background and 1200 killed in bombing raids conducted against legitimate targets while attempting to minimize casualties.

But it’s not surprising that one thinks this way when one has no real basis on which to draw morality from.

And no it wasn’t done out of “desperation” you goon. It was coordinated by billionaires. The heads of Hamas who coordinated 10/7 live in unbelievable luxury. Gaza had some of the finest homes, resorts, cars, and restaurants around.

Oh and btw virtually every legal code and religious systems distinguishes between intentional murder and unintentional death. You could say it’s a deeply rooted idea inherent to civilization but given your hamas sympathies I’m not too sure how much of a “civilization” supporter you are.

It’s a major concept and somewhat disturbing that you don’t see the difference between these two scenarios:

A) fighters of group A fighters attack Bs territory and find a residential home which they know a family of 5 is in. They board up the home, surround it with armed gunmen, and then throw grenades in the home until it is clear the family is dead.

B) fighters of group B strike an arms depot of group A. They take precautions to strike at a time when there will be few civilians around, but it just so happens that 5 maintenance workers are present at the location. Nonetheless it is a valid military target.

All death is not equal and to view it as such reveals a moral blind spot.

A people cannot occupy land to which they are indigenous to. Jews are indigenous to Israel. It’s like saying the native Americans occupy America. Makes no sense.

I’m curious, can you name me a government, a political party, or group that has been in an armed conflict that isn’t evil or bad? What is the principle at play? Which ever side kills more is the evil side?

The Nazi comparison also works very well for Likud. They’ve killed far more people than Hamas ever has.

American police kill more people yearly than Bundy or Dahmer did. Are they the bad guys?

Sgt York killed more than Bundy. Is York more evil than Bundy?

Don’t fight Al-qaeda it’ll just lead to more terrorists. Don’t fight ISIS they’ll just get more recruits. That’s the sort of logic that’s being employed.

I/P is a religious issue and you haven’t seemed to have wrapped your head around that yet. Dumb westerners think it’s all about the occupation of the West Bank or Gaza and whenever I hear that I know they’ve never visited the conflict zone.

Every time a Hamas fighter dies an angel gets its wings and the state of the world is improved. It’s like Nazis dying. No one says “oh but won’t killing nazis just lead to more nazis??” because that would be stupid. Israel is doing Gods work in destroying the Hamas rapists. You should be rooting for Israel’s success unless you want Israel’s destruction and radical Islam to prevail. Is that what you want?