No one would talk much in society if they knew how often they misunderstood others. -Goethe

"In order to live an ethical life, we must first identify our wants from needs. Want's can not all be satisfied, per Stoicism."

All sources of gratification fulfill a need. Maslow's Heirarchy would assert that a person's motivation is based on fulfilling needs that are physical, psychological, social, creative, etc., Physical needs are precedent. If physical needs are met, we approach a new set of goals for gratification.

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I'm not a fan of stoicism.

Want, and need, don't exist in present tense. Gratification is a human instinct. Being primal, it doesn't discriminate.

For a less philosophic answer, I'd put the question next to Maslow's Hierarchy of Needs.

If you look at a green Christmas tree light, it looks green, because either it's emitting green light, or because its colored glass is absorbing all the visible wavelengths but green, or absorbing at &/or around green's complementary wavelength,(Magenta.. Green and Magenta are complementary to eachother.) — Michael Ossipoff

It’s reflecting a color and absorbing the rest. It is the other colors, it’s separated at the area we see as color.

but cold is perceived as a separate sensation of cold — Michael Ossipoff

I’m talking of cold, not feeling it.

‘Microscopically in the description of quantum mechanics, however, matter still has zero-point energy even at absolute zero, because of the uncertainty principle.’-Wikipedia

If it were possible to cool a system to absolute zero, all motion of the particles in a sample of matter would cease and they would be at complete rest in this classical sense.-Wikipedia

Dark is absolutely the absence of light. Do we agree there, at least?

Well, we perceive a substance by itself. It's primarily the object itself that you perceive. But sure, — Michael Ossipoff

My point here is that what we perceive isnt necessary what is.

Entropy governs some events in thermodynamics. — Michael Ossipoff

Second definition of entropy. Things progressing into disorder. Time measures entropy.

Think really hard upside down and backwards and you might get the possibility of space as an object, and the object lack of space.

I’m talking about odd not contradictory. Why bother thinking of anything if you can dissect what we know a million more times? There’s been some shockers if you try, tho.

Ha! If you haven’t gone near mad, you’re not a very good philosopher.

My unsolicited advice was that letting the mind go silent allows what is to be.

You’re rude.

First, some definitions. Metaphysical realism means the the world we perceive as external consisting of objects, events, space and time exists in some form regardless of whether anyone is perceiving or thinking about it. — Marchesk

Here’s an interesting take...

Everything we see and experience is transposed. We don’t see a color. We perceive it as such, but really it’s the absence of the color in the spectrum.

Cold is the absence of heat. Dark is the absence of light. Substance is perceived by the space around it’s form. These things function through laws of entropy.

If you assume metaphysics is true and expand from there, you’ll stumble on odd laws of our world. Be willing to kill it if it no longer serves purpose or starts driving you over the edge crazy.

Real or not, it’s a waste of brain space if it doesn’t serve a purpose.

Take America 1800s or 1900s and now 2000s. A lonely farm, some animals, a stray book compared to an urban setting with TV and broadband. — TheMadFool

The expansion of the tech revolution has us people that used library index cards wide eyed in wonder.

Children now have access to all information (don’t regulate!!! Like it’s not going to happen, anyway, tho. boo).

I’d think if there’s a reason children are more mature and sophisticated, it’s that many have been given the permission, resources, and tools they need to reach full potential.

Is there some way you could provide links to these threads, the case for what benefits alternatives to Realism bring is exactly what I've been asking about. See my post above for how I think it links to the question here. — Inter Alia

http://www.dictionary.com/browse/scepticism

Realism is the exact opposite of scepticism.

http://www.dictionary.com/browse/realism

Sceptism is a tool that uses what isn’t or what hasn’t happened to define what is.

It didn't start out that way, that's just the way it has evolved. It started out talking about how children are more mature now than they were in the past because of changes in information technology. — T Clark

Ha. *now* I’ll quote.

I’ll quote. ;)

The solution to this conundrum lies in the peasant’s intentions — Samuel Lacrampe

Objective morality, if it exists, does so without care to people’s intent.

I’m hearing, If you believe in objective morality, than you believe in God, and you believe in predestination. (Including being created with innate morals and intentions). So the question isn’t if it’s true, but if it fits into Christian context to be without innate morality.

Is that what Christians believe? Some? All? Is it a sin to sin if you didn’t know? Isn’t this a theological question?

Referencing Christian dogma to argue if Christian dogma exists is circular logic. Literally.

From another POV I think of indigenous people who believe laws (morals) came from a diety (dieties) and are meant to be taught to children; because it’s assumed they don’t know.

The individual as such is the possibility of rewriting any such tidy set of rules or concepts. This 'living world itself' is exactly the kind of phrase I like for trying to point out the context in which all our thinking-doing-feeling occurs — ff0

I hear the phrase as referring to us observing and creating a paradigm as events unfold, not creating new events. Input?

There are concepts, actions, and objects. Dissect before you amputate. They aren’t exclusive of each other.

Unless we all believe we’re Moist Multi-Dimensional Robots, there’s not enough common context to communicate large theoretical possibilities.

MMDR Bots

Hullo! Thnx! Excited to find you all.

Action doesn’t exist because what ‘did’ is gone and what ‘will’ hasn’t happened.

The process that allows sensory input to create cognition is not a physical thing. It doesn’t ‘exist’, because we’re at a single point in it at any given time.

I had no idea you guys were talking about human trafficking, child sex workers, and child labor.

Whoa. Open mouth insert foot. Awkward timing is a talent.

Whoa. It’s getting feely.

Hearing the question as, “How does philosophy benefit human societies?”...Does anyone have some interesting historical info about philosophers and philosophy in general?

More boys than not have a ceremony or apprenticeship between ten and thirteen years old. Societies use this method to teach adulthood. Rites of Passage.

Adulthood is based on readiness, the parents wishes, and cultural expectations. Defining it in solid numbers is an invention of Western expansion.

People kept their kids longer for labor during the agricultural revolution.

I’m not sure what timeframe/culture you’re referring to as comparison to modern expectations. Will you divulge?

By definition, yes.

Human Nature
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_nature

Critical Thinking
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Critical_thinking

We use both, simultaneously; a trait only seen in humans.

There might be aliens, tho.