This still goes against your claim that external stimuli causes brain activity, though. If that were true, in absence of external stimuli our brains would shut down. — JustSomeGuy

Could you please tell me what a brain process when it is isolated? Can you program a brain without external stimuli?

That is demonstrably not true, though. It has been well-established that when in complete sensory-deprivation our brains are still very active. We hallucinate. We essentially create our own stimuli. — JustSomeGuy

Yes, the brain is processing all experience, etc in later stage of life., while being isolated from sensory system.

Of course God had to be able to defy logic, because if he wasn't able to, his omnipotence would be constrained by the rock problem. His only way out of it is to say that he can create a rock he can't lift and then lift it, because he's not constrained by the laws of logic that say he can't, or that he can create such a rock because he's not constrained by the fact that such a rock is a logical impossibility. Either way he cannot be both omnipotent and constrained by logic. — Pseudonym

SO He can and cannot lift the stone at the same time.

There is no such a thing as Zeno's paradox.
— bahman

Zeno's paradoxes — TheMadFool

I am aware of that. But the paradox is resolvable considering the fact that we need shorter duration for shorter distance.

Self-contradictory ideas cannot exist.
— bahman

Theism vs Atheism...Materialism vs Idealism...etc. — TheMadFool

I should have written Self-contrary ideas cannot exist in reality.

But what causes the “brain activity”? — Starthrower

External stimuli.

No. Not that I know of. — Lone Wolf

Why not?

He has no reason other than that he has compassion for humans to reveal anything to us. — Lone Wolf

So would He reveal the truth about our future acts to us? Yes or no.

That's a pretty ambiguous question. Both sides of what - the '+' or the '='? I gave you an example where the equation worked with drops of water. One drop of water added to another drop of water makes one drop of water. — Banno

Consider all "1" similar.

He needs to prove because there are curious human beings who are judgmental. How I could know the person I meet now or after death is God who has foreknowledge then?

How God could prove that He is omniscient then?

No, He cannot know that I do something and opposite of it at the same time since I cannot do something and opposite of it at the same time.

So I just do opposite of what God told me. That is leads into a contradiction. Therefore God cannot have foreknowledge.

Why should he tell any human what he already knows? — Lone Wolf

I ask God. Can God tells me what I am going to do in a situation?

If you are referring to the doctrine of predestination, I have drawn a conclusion that God does not tell humans what to do; we are free to make our own choices. That God must choose for a human that he may know the future inhibits the potential of his sovereignty. — Lone Wolf

No, I am not talking about doctrine of predestination. I asked if God can tell you what you are trying to do in a situation? He knows things so He of course can tell you what you are going to do. You can of course do opposite if you are free which this leads to a contradiction.

And how God knows what you are trying to do? Yes, He is not bounded by time. Can God tell you what you are trying to do?

Exactly.

And that is exactly what we have done; defined "1" so that the theory of numbers applies.

If god 'defied' logic, we could simply change the rules of logic so that they applied to his actions.

That is, the question in the title badly misunderstands what logic is. — Banno

Is 1+1=1 if 1 in both side are same?

Attributes of anything of course don't change. If God is same before and after your praying then your praying couldn't affect Him. How He could then respond properly if He is not affected?

Is God same before and after your praying?

We tend to be quite selective in choosing our examples. 1+1=1 when we watch raindrops slide down a window. 1+1=3 when folk fuck without contraception. — Banno

What you are doing is merely redefining the concept of "1" so your theory applies. Two drops of rain of course could form one but the quantities of water satisfy the equation 1+1=2. So I think we need to be clear about what we mean with concepts used in left and right hand side of equation. All I am saying is that 1+1=/=1 if the "1" in left side of equation is equal to the "1" in right side of equation.

You are saying two glasses of water is equal to three glasses of water?

So things you can't imagine can't be possible for God? God is bound by your imagination? — JustSomeGuy

I am saying that something which is unimaginable cannot have any instance in reality. And yes, if you give two apples to God He only have two apples.

In other words, you think that the laws of physics that you have been taught apply to all possible places in all possible times.

How do you know? — WISDOMfromPO-MO

The laws of physics could be different but they should respect something. "One apple+one apple=two apples". I cannot even imagine "one apple+one apple=three apples".

You are right in saying humans cannot make a relationship with God. Instead, God initiated a relationship with us first. It has nothing to do with change though, as God can easily remain unchanged while partaking in some sort of relationship with us. — Lone Wolf

How can God hear what you are praying if He is changeless?

There should be a minimal amount of self-interest, otherwise we wouldn't be here to live. That is another matter if you don't like life.

I am sorry. I have to correct myself. I wanted to write "Self-contradictory ideas cannot exist in reality". They are impossible in any world. Cognitive dissonance is a mental phenomena.

We defy logic all the time. See Zeno's paradox. Moving between two points is logically impossible but we do it without a batting an eye. — TheMadFool

There is no such a thing as Zeno's paradox. You can move along infinite instants if the duration between instants is good function of distance.

Another thing is even our thoughts aren't "constrained" by logic. We all have some inconsistent beliefs floating around somewhere in our minds. — TheMadFool

Self-contradictory ideas cannot exist.

I don't see why God, an omnipotent being, should be limited by logic. — TheMadFool

Because such an illogical reality is impossible.

Can someone who sees everything, say that: "I don't see why not." ? — Vajk

To me such a person is impossible.

1+1=2 represent something in reality.

Consider the classic refutation of God's omnipotence.

Could God create a rock which was so heavy that even he could not lift it? If he can't then he is not omnipotent because there is a logically possible object that he cannot create, if he can, then he can't be omnipotent because there is a logically possible task he cannot do.

The counter argument to this is that such a rock is not logically possible because a rock which is so heavy it cannot be lifted by an omnipotent being could not exist, it would have to be more than infinitely heavy.

So the problem arises, if God is not bound by logic, then where does that leave the refutation of the limits to his omnipotence. If he is not bound by logic, then he could create such a rock which would instantly disprove his omnipotence. — Pseudonym

I cannot agree more.

If yes, then what is the point of the free will?
If no, then what is the point of the free will? — Vajk

What free will has to do with our current discussion?

If you don't know what I mean, imagine somebody pouring one liter of water into a container with one liter of water and it resulting in three liters of water. That does not happen in our world, but that does not mean that there are not other worlds where it happens. — WISDOMfromPO-MO

I don't think such a world exist.

I don't think even an omnipotent being could defy hard rules of logic. 1+1=3 is not possible in the traditional system of mathematics and it would not be any more possible for us than for God. — Brian

I agree.

However, I don't think any legitimate definition of omnipotence would require a deity to be able to defy the laws of logic. I don't even think that 1+1=3 is even intelligible. What would it mean? What would it look like? What would it represent? — Brian

I agree.

This is a symbolic convention. It is not logic. — Rich

I am arguing that 1+1=2 is symbolic equation which tells something we can assign to reality we observe, one apple plus one apple is equal two apples. The question is can we have 1+1=3 which again can appear as a property of reality? Is that possible?

As a an aside, there are no two things that are exactly alike so we are doing arithmetic everything out of convention. — Rich

I don't understand you?

What you call mind or self is byproduct of brain activity. It is no wonder that we can only move our body because the movement of our body also is the result of brain activity.

Great. All I wanted to hear was that 1+1=3 is illogical. I will open a thread to know the opinion of others on this issue.