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  • Cellular Sentience and Cosmic Bigotry
    according to the model i'm operating from.punos

    Yes, I know. But you said some argue otherwise. I responded to that.

    How does sentience know how to react to the stimuli? Intelligence.punos

    Simple cause-and-effect is dependent upon intelligence (cognitive due diligence)? So, if an element lacks intelligence, it won't react anymore?

    not exactly my vision of the next phase.punos

    It was symbolic. The nature might be different, but not necessarily the proportion.
  • Cellular Sentience and Cosmic Bigotry
    consciousness is fundamentalpunos

    That wouldn't make sense. What consciousness does a chunk of mud have?

    Intelligencepunos

    You mean sentience (reaction to stimulus)?

    I project that another emergence, as unique to consciousness as physics is to life, will occur at some point in our future.punos

    Isn't that the argument of this post?


    The Star Child from 2001: A Space Odyssey addressed the next phase of evolution decades ago.
  • name calling and Scrabble
    Let Copernicus Post

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  • Cellular Sentience and Cosmic Bigotry
    “living”Punshhh

    Do we have an undisputed definition for it, though?
  • Cellular Sentience and Cosmic Bigotry
    What I meant is that the same way the eyes themselves cannot see them, without external help, consciousness itself cannot interpret (look within) itself.
  • Cellular Sentience and Cosmic Bigotry
    Which one is better evidence of the color of your eyes - hearing someone telling you your eye color, or looking in the mirror?Harry Hindu

    What if I'm alone in a galaxy with no reflective substance to see myself?
  • Tranwomen are women. Transmen are men. True or false?
    I accidentally quoted myself and now can't find anything relevant to replace it with.
  • Tranwomen are women. Transmen are men. True or false?
    humans mistake statistical or biological tendencies for moral truths
  • Cellular Sentience and Cosmic Bigotry
    Did you even read the post you were responding to?Harry Hindu

    Did you (check what I responded to)?

    Ever looked in a mirror?Harry Hindu

    It's like:
    — Humans can't fly because they don't have wings.
    — Ever been in an airplane?
  • Cellular Sentience and Cosmic Bigotry
    That's not even a logical argument. Read the metaphor.
  • Cellular Sentience and Cosmic Bigotry
    I see.

    Or perhaps it can be framed as an argument from monistic perspective.

  • Cellular Sentience and Cosmic Bigotry
    misleading starting pointMetaphysician Undercover

    Because my papers are part of a series, and I've already defended monism in previous papers.
  • What is Time?
    Time (not the flow of it) is the phenomenon of space and matter being driven (pushed forward involuntarily) by a mysterious force.

    I'd have to present my proposition on that to explain.
  • Who is the Legitimate Author of the Constitution?
    I don't like the idea of ​​a state without a constitution.Astorre

    Why do we need a state?
  • What makes nature comply to laws?
    Nature isn't a hive mind. It has no central command. Nature itself is not an entity. Nature is the collective body of scattered elements. These elements follow the principle of causality. Similar causes yield similar responses. These patterned responses are called the laws of nature.

    The universe does not tolerate deviation.
    A proton has a precise charge of +1. An electron orbits in fixed quantized shells.
    Water always freezes at 0°C under standard conditions. These are not arbitrary
    properties—they are fixed, consistent, and inescapable.

    This cosmic selectivity creates coherence: without it, there would be no chemistry, no
    biology, no consciousness. If nitrogen had three electrons “once in a while,” the
    periodic table would collapse; the fabric of reality would disintegrate.

    Thus, the rigidity of law is the condition for existence.
    Without selection, there is no identity. Without constraint, there is no form. The
    universe is selective because only selectivity can sustain being.

    Alam, T. B. (2025). The Selective Universe: Order, Entropy, and the Philosophical Paradox of Natural Rigidity [Zenodo]. https://doi.org/10.5281/zenodo.17341242
  • Cellular Sentience and Cosmic Bigotry
    And I asked YOU why do you need to know?apokrisis

    Because they're connected. Every element of the universe is an image of the universe itself. Elements project the universe, the universe projects its elements.
  • Cellular Sentience and Cosmic Bigotry
    you said there is no pure chaos. From that argument, the universe will never lose control.

    So I asked YOU on what you conclude as the fate of the cosmos.
  • Cellular Sentience and Cosmic Bigotry
    I asked, what does cosmology say about dualism?
  • Cellular Sentience and Cosmic Bigotry
    are you saying the universe will forever last?
  • Cellular Sentience and Cosmic Bigotry
    there is also the cosmological argument which demonstrates that there is necessarily an immaterial actuality which is prior to all material existence.Metaphysician Undercover

    Continue.
  • Cellular Sentience and Cosmic Bigotry
    Explainapokrisis

    Take away all laws of physics or the natural order. That's true chaos.
  • Cellular Sentience and Cosmic Bigotry
    Can you think of a test that would detect sapience or consciousness?bert1

    Yes. You see if your synthetic being goes beyond its programmed capacity or scope and does something on its own that wasn't predicted (in machine learning). Something novel, something that is attributed to the body.
  • Tranwomen are women. Transmen are men. True or false?
    Not just sexes, pretty much everything is being stereotyped.baker


    Modern moral thought seeks to dissolve rigid patterns—arguing that social identities and roles should be fluid, inclusive, and adaptive. But the question arises: if the cosmos thrives on patterned predictability, are we defying natural order when we reject all categorization?

    Perhaps political correctness is not a rebellion against truth but against the misuse of truth.
    Where the laws of physics are descriptive (they describe how matter behaves), human “laws” and social codes are often prescriptive (they dictate how people should behave).
    Confusing these two is the origin of moral error.

    Thus, it is not that rigidity is wrong or that fluidity is right—but that cosmic rigidity serves being, while social rigidity often serves power.
    If the universe’s consistency ensures existence, and its entropy ensures change, then perhaps human liberty is the social form of cosmic entropy.
    Too much rigidity yields tyranny. Too much fluidity yields chaos.
    Thus, just as the cosmos balances order and disorder, civilization must balance law and liberty.

    Racism and sexism are not “natural laws” but misapplications of pattern recognition.
    They emerge when humans mistake statistical or biological tendencies for moral truths.
    The difference between physics and prejudice is the difference between observation and judgment.

    Alam, T. B. (2025). The Selective Universe: Order, Entropy, and the Philosophical Paradox of Natural Rigidity [Zenodo]. https://doi.org/10.5281/zenodo.17341242
  • Cellular Sentience and Cosmic Bigotry
    You take materialism to be trueMetaphysician Undercover

    Well, you must have a basis for other arguments to circle around.
  • Cellular Sentience and Cosmic Bigotry
    simple unboxed freedom.apokrisis

    That's entropy. Any large-scale or permanent chaos would doom the universe.
  • Cellular Sentience and Cosmic Bigotry
    What about hydrogen and oxygen?RogueAI

    Every element is crucial in its own place. But carbon was the building block of life and organic chemistry.
  • Cellular Sentience and Cosmic Bigotry
    ummm.... Elementary biology and chemistry?
  • Cellular Sentience and Cosmic Bigotry
    I think the main topic got sidelined here.

    Rather than dissection entropy, we should examine what makes carbon the heart of consciousness.
  • Cellular Sentience and Cosmic Bigotry
    According to me of course.punos

    And what is your argument for that?

    Indeed it is.punos

    So the universe (space) managing itself (entropy) for sustainability? Yes, my point too.

    But it does leave a question:
    Why is the universe, a scattered body without any central command, hellbent on sustainability and manages to do so uniformly without direct communication between the elements?
    Not to mention, non-living matters don't have sapience to communicate. Signal interpretation should be seen as sapience. Does that mean non-living matters are alive in their own sense (Panpsychism)?

    Which is easier to prove? That it is or that it isn't?punos

    Empirical data says chaos exists. You argue otherwise.
  • Cellular Sentience and Cosmic Bigotry
    If something appears anomalous or miraculous, it is because we do not yet understand its natural nature.punos

    So in true sense, nothing is unnatural or supernatural? That's what my thesis argues, though.

    Chaos is just hidden order.punos

    So entropy is orderly?

    spacepunos

    Isn't space part of the universe?

    the universe is always certain about what it will do in the next moment in time.punos

    Can you prove it?
  • Cellular Sentience and Cosmic Bigotry
    cell is widely accepted as the precondition for living matter (i.e., those who have free will and mind). machines lack cells.
  • Cellular Sentience and Cosmic Bigotry
    How would you prove or observe machine consciousness?RogueAI

    one of the outcomes of consciousness is free will.Copernicus
  • Cellular Sentience and Cosmic Bigotry
    Supernatural?punos

    What is the definition of supernatural?

    If there is any "anomaly" to the natural law, is it unnatural? Does that make entropy or other chemical reaction exceptions unnatural?

    Why would a universe that values order also permit chaos?
    Perhaps because rigidity without decay would yield stagnation. Entropy ensures transformation.
    If the laws are the skeleton of the cosmos, entropy is its pulse—its motion through time. The two are not contradictions but complements: order defines the possible, entropy defines the dynamic.

    The cosmos, then, is not a tyrant of predictability, but a governor of structured uncertainty.


    Alam, T. B. (2025). The Selective Universe: Order, Entropy, and the Philosophical Paradox of Natural Rigidity [Zenodo]. https://doi.org/10.5281/zenodo.17341242
  • Cellular Sentience and Cosmic Bigotry
    Is it possible some machines are conscious?RogueAI

    It was never proved or observed. And one of the outcomes of consciousness is free will. But what is "will" exactly? A person in a coma or paralysis has consciousness, but physical inability to execute will. Does he lack free will? If not, how do you know he has free will? Just because he was born with it?
  • Cellular Sentience and Cosmic Bigotry
    Why is that?Harry Hindu

    I think I've equated it with the eye's inability to see itself.
  • Cellular Sentience and Cosmic Bigotry
    If we can reproduce intelligence "artificially" then why not cells?Harry Hindu

    Will that cell generate consciousness?
  • Cellular Sentience and Cosmic Bigotry
    Test them for what? What would that show?bert1

    To see if their "artificial" body can generate sapience or consciousness.
  • Cellular Sentience and Cosmic Bigotry
    @Banno@Metaphysician Undercover

    I'm sorry if I had been unwelcoming in my arguments.

    I'd ask you to bring all your arsenal and attack me reasonably so that I can see if I have any fault.

    I'm working on a book, so I want a proper review and feedback beforehand.