See that "we"? There is no "we" in solipsism. — Banno
something from "outside your head"? — Banno
Out of the billions (perhaps more) persons who have lived, there is absolutely no way to know at least one person never lived a life doing exactly that. Sure, it's likely it ended prematurely, perhaps violently, and the person died an unknown and was never heard of or spoken of. But that doesn't matter as far as the premise of your OP is concerned. — Outlander
That makes selflessness theoretically (of course, practically) unattainable. — Copernicus
For him, we don't exist, so you already have left him to it. — Banno
You miss the point where the distinction arises. If your vision is of peace and justice for everyone, it is altruistic. If your vision is of your own well-being and prosperity alone, it is selfish. — Ludwig V
You only read part of what I said. You will surely not see what you choose not to look for. — Ludwig V
How would you know? — Ludwig V
Great post, just that one line sticks out to me as something that others might gloss over thus prematurely proving the OP's premise as valid.
— Outlander
Thanks for that.
But they're still your children.
— Outlander
There's a case for considering generosity to one's children is a kind of selfishness. But that just reveals that what counts as selfishness is not necessarily obvious. What do we make of the virtue of looking after one's family? In the context of wider society, it can look like selfishness. In the context of traditional individualism, it is altruism.
Think of benefactors of your town or city or of art rather than homelessness.
I could spend my money and time on my personal pleasures and leave the kids without. Would that not be selfish? Is helping out my friends and neighbours not generous, because they are my friends and neighbours? Yet, I agree that exclusive attention to my kids, neglecting my partner, would be wrong.
It benefits your family and existence directly to have happy children who live productive lives, possibly earning lots of money, holding you in high regard, esteem, and favor, and then taking care of you when you're enfeebled.
— Outlander
Yes, but the point is that I consider those happy children to be a benefit and not a drag. The rest of it is far from guaranteed. However, if my generosity to them was predicated on those happy outcomes. that would undermine my claim to generosity. — Ludwig V
those is at least a candidates for a selfless action — Ludwig V
There's nothing wrong with personal satisfaction, emotional fulfilment and existential meaning in themselves. — Ludwig V
Where does the meaning, the discipline, the other come from? — Ludwig V
The difference between someone who gets pleasure from the pleasure of others is different in important ways from the person who gets pleasure from the pain of others. — Ludwig V
if you can recognize that solipsism is a cage, there is some hope for you. — Ludwig V
say some sort of hypothetical secret act to make the world a better place, by someone without children or family, who therefore has nothing to gain from making said world a better place? :chin: — Outlander
The problem with your bubble is that the generality of the explanation renders any particular instance useless for inquiry. Distinctions without a difference. — Paine
I desire to eat but I want a six pack set of abominals. I want to have the high from exercise but don't want to put in the time. I crave sugar but I'm diabetic. In what sense can the "self" be against itself? — Nils Loc
I'm simply assuming that if the definitions are true, can it be logically claims that a transman is a man? No. — Philosophim
ou do not have to follow or recognize the gender of that community or culture, but you should be able to recognize that communities and cultures have expectations of behavior of people within them — Philosophim
intersex — Philosophim
gender theory — Philosophim
if you understand the culture of a place, agree with that gendered culture, and purposefully act in a way that is against the gender of that that culture for your sex, and intentionally take the gender of the opposite sex, you are acting transgendered. — Philosophim
Transgender is agreeing with a particular viewpoint about what non-biological behavior should be done in public by men and women, then purposefully doing behavior that is expected of the opposite sex, not yours. — Philosophim
What definition would you like to propose for gender instead? — Philosophim
If a male wears a skirt, they are acting in a transgendered way. — Philosophim
There is nothing inherent in being male or female that would drive a man not to wear a skirt and a woman to wear one — Philosophim
That is the modern day terminology, yes. I note the definitions in the OP, do you disagree with them? — Philosophim
In regards to sex, yes. In regard to gender, no. — Philosophim
I do not see any reason why this is not a philosophical topic. — Philosophim
what "selfishness" is not — Harry Hindu
are they being selfish? — Harry Hindu
IDK, it seems to me that all this shows is that all intentional behavior involves desire and that all things desire the good. — Count Timothy von Icarus
But what have you said about an event when you say it is physical? What is it about an event that makes it physical? — bert1
to claim that it is an argument with a conclusion is a little misleading — Metaphysician Undercover
